Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow

Ashley · 09-15-2012, 10:16 AM

I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with.

Beastmode · 09-15-2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with.

Agree, we don't have elite talent but there is enough to get it done. If they focus on their specific tasks and stopped trying to be heroes we will be fine. That's Spags job. Make them stick to their assignments. If he can do that we will be a a good disciplined defense, not great, but teams won't be putting up 40 pts anymore. Keep em' in the mid 20's and we will be in the playoffs.

GoofySaint · 09-15-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with.

Curtis Lofton

Jabari Greer?

Ashley · 09-15-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

Curtis Lofton

Jabari Greer?

Jabari is damn good. He is one our best hands down Lofton is good, but have either one made the probowl? I know we have some back there who has made the pro bowl. We do have some good talent, but you cant say they are great.
That is all i am saying, I'm not trying to punch holes in our D. But it is what it is

GoofySaint · 09-15-2012, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

Jabari is damn good. He is one our best hands down Lofton is good, but have either one made the probowl? I know we have some back there who has made the pro bowl. We do have some good talent, but you cant say they are great.
That is all i am saying, I'm not trying to punch holes in our D. But it is what it is

Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities.

Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team.

And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks?

I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis).

I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league.

That sounds great to me.

Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys.

There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne.

It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going.

Ashley · 09-15-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities.

Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team.

And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks?

I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis).

I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league.

That sounds great to me.

Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys.

There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne.

It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going.

I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that.
I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year.

|Mitch| · 09-15-2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that.
I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year.

Martez Wilson too, if they give him snaps...

GoofySaint · 09-16-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that.
I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year.

Hey Jenkins has spunk. He's a rookie but I think this will be his breakout year. Especially since he's out of GW's blitz system.

I slightly agree with the will smith comment. Though I feel his leadership will help, especially when the d line was our biggest problem.

The Dude · 09-15-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities.

Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team.

And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks?

I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis).

I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league.

That sounds great to me.

Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys.

There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne.

It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going.

Where did you see this?

GoofySaint · 09-16-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Where did you see this?

There was "Lindy's SPORTS 2012 preview".

And I believe "pro football weekly".

09-15-2012, 10:16 AM	#1
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with.

09-15-2012, 11:32 AM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by Ashley I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with. Agree, we don't have elite talent but there is enough to get it done. If they focus on their specific tasks and stopped trying to be heroes we will be fine. That's Spags job. Make them stick to their assignments. If he can do that we will be a a good disciplined defense, not great, but teams won't be putting up 40 pts anymore. Keep em' in the mid 20's and we will be in the playoffs.
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09-15-2012, 12:21 PM	#3
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by Ashley I hope this can be corrected, but i really believe we just dont have the players on that side of the ball. No one is an elite player, we have some good ones, just no real threats. So i do hope that this coach can get the the best out of what he has to work with. Curtis Lofton Jabari Greer?

09-15-2012, 04:15 PM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by GoofySaint Curtis Lofton Jabari Greer? Jabari is damn good. He is one our best hands down Lofton is good, but have either one made the probowl? I know we have some back there who has made the pro bowl. We do have some good talent, but you cant say they are great. That is all i am saying, I'm not trying to punch holes in our D. But it is what it is

09-15-2012, 08:25 PM	#5
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by Ashley Jabari is damn good. He is one our best hands down Lofton is good, but have either one made the probowl? I know we have some back there who has made the pro bowl. We do have some good talent, but you cant say they are great. That is all i am saying, I'm not trying to punch holes in our D. But it is what it is Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities. Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team. And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks? I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis). I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league. That sounds great to me. Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys. There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne. It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going.

09-15-2012, 08:45 PM	#6
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by GoofySaint Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities. Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team. And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks? I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis). I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league. That sounds great to me. Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys. There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne. It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going. I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that. I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year. \|Mitch\| likes this.

09-15-2012, 08:49 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by Ashley I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that. I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year. Martez Wilson too, if they give him snaps...

09-16-2012, 12:24 PM	#8
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by Ashley I said that Greer was maybe our best, Lofton we will just have to see how he is played out. He is also very good. .... Yes they are our top guys. Jenkins though... come on, Will Smith is never consistent, as of lately.. Hawthorne.. I do like. So lets put them in the good, I will go ahead and give you that. I'm going to say that Cameron Jordan will have a better year than Will Smith this year. Hey Jenkins has spunk. He's a rookie but I think this will be his breakout year. Especially since he's out of GW's blitz system. I slightly agree with the will smith comment. Though I feel his leadership will help, especially when the d line was our biggest problem.

09-15-2012, 09:34 PM	#9
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by GoofySaint Neither one has made the probowl because neither was used to the best of their abilities. Lofton was used on a Falcons D with nothing around him and revolved around the falcons offense. I see proof of this in his comments about his old team. And Greer was used in a GW system that just called for "blitz,blitz,blitz!"(not exactly something you can do when you're a cornerback). You think Revis was praised because of his sacks? I saw Jabari Greer ranked as the 2nd best corner in the league(second only to Revis). I also Curtis Lofton ranked as the 10th best linebacker in the league. That sounds great to me. Plus I only used those guys because they're our top guys. There's also a few honorable mentions like Malcolm Jenkins, Will Smith, and Hawthorne. It's not the dome patrol but it's more than enough to keep the 1# offense going. Where did you see this?
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09-16-2012, 12:27 PM	#10
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Spagnuolo: Saints defense was a step slow Originally Posted by The Dude Where did you see this? There was "Lindy's SPORTS 2012 preview". And I believe "pro football weekly".