Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text).

228jits · 09-19-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

All I know is we played RGlll week 1 and Cam week 2. They have non-traditional O's. I think it would be hard for any new D to run well against that. All that being said this week is my last week defending Spags if the D doesn't show some signs of improvement. Like you know STOPPING PEOPLE ON 3 AND LONG....................Oh and I pray Drew plays his game. Looks like he is spread as thin as our CB's. You can't be coach, QB, motivational speaker, GM, water boy, and try to show everyone you deserved that contract. Just Dew you Drew.

Tampa seemed to handle Cam and RB's pretty well when they played. Jeff Fisher seemed to contain RG3 pretty well too... I don't know..

I'm not on the blame Drew bandwagon. He's trying to make up for more than he has to in his entire time in NO. He has too much pressure on him (metaphorically and during the game!)

Danno · 09-19-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Preseason doesn't matter. Plain and simple.

It absolutely does matter, just not the score. Its a glorified scrimmage. Saying pre-season doesn't matter is like saying practice doesn't matter. (please don't post that Iverson nonsense)

Joker · 09-19-2012, 11:05 AM

Spuds system will work with the right personnel that he don't have right now. He needs to adapt to what's s ail able to him and go from there, can he, will he that's the million dollar question

Shoe. · 09-19-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Joker

Spuds system will work with the right personnel that he don't have right now. He needs to adapt to what's s ail able to him and go from there, can he, will he that's the million dollar question

His past results more or less speak for themselves.

He handled us pretty well last year with off-the-street 5th and 6th str CBs.

And we had literally the best O-line in the league, and he still was able to get to us and disrupt Brees' rhythm (and sack him a couple of times to boot).

Give the man some time to find his pieces and put them together how he likes. Keep in mind he's still largely playing with gregggggggggggggggggggggggggggs D

Tobias-Reiper · 09-19-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by 228jits

Tampa seemed to handle Cam and RB's pretty well Jeff Fisher seemed to contain RG3 pretty well too... I don't know..

...hmm.. 300 yds passing/rushing with 3 TDs for Griffin against the Rams, with actual NFL footage to study for a week... Man, if that's "containment", I'd hate to see RG3 run wild.

SaintsBro · 09-19-2012, 12:08 PM

I was REALLY stoked on all the new stuff with the team after that Hall of Fame game and the Patriots. I liked Grubbs, the D, the new linebackers. The starters were checking everything off the What Do We Want To See checklist on defense -- sack, fumble, pressures, interception, shoulda-been-a-safety, not letting teams cross midfield for a whole quarter...we even almost solved Arizona's preseason QB controversy for them! Then the starters in the Texans game, it seemed like a close but winnable slugfest, just like every time when we play them. Then ever since the Jaguars game, man, it's been a steaming cowpie out there. It's a fricking nightmare.

* sheds tear, at the memory of clobbering Kevin Kolb in the end zone, like in the good old days *

228jits · 09-19-2012, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

...hmm.. 300 yds passing/rushing with 3 TDs for Griffin against the Rams, with actual NFL footage to study for a week... Man, if that's "containment", I'd hate to see RG3 run wild.

Nice that you can read stats. If you watched the game that the Rams actually touched RG3. They gave him problems. Because he was able to pass the ball for 300 yards means he was as advertised. And yes the contained him enough to win the game. Redskins are 1-1 the last time I checked.

Let's compare game stats:

Attempts/Completions
19/26 v NO
20/29 v STL

Passing Yards
320 v NO
206 v STL

Average per pass
12.31 v NO
7.10 v STL

2 TD v NO
1 TD 1 INT v STL

Rushing attempts/yards/TD's
9/42/0 v NO
11/82/2 v STL

Tobias-Reiper · 09-19-2012, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by 228jits

Nice that you can read stats. If you watched the game that the Rams actually touched RG3. They gave him problems. Because he was able to pass the ball for 300 yards means he was as advertised. And yes the contained him enough to win the game. Redskins are 1-1 the last time I checked.

Gee, they touched him! The humanity.

I am simply saying that a team "containing" a QB to 300 yds and 3 TDs is not really "containing" him, lest you expect RG3 to be gaining 400 yds and scoring 5 TDs a game.

blackangold · 09-19-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

Chiefs game could be bad.... They have some weapons on Offense and sum studs on the D... Im hoping somehow someway we can get this win...

Isn't it sad how we are talking about "getting away with" a win against an 0-2 team?

Man, even given the off-season we had I would never have thought we would be in this position.

CharityMike · 09-19-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Isn't it sad how we are talking about "getting away with" a win against an 0-2 team?

Man, even given the off-season we had I would never have thought we would be in this position.

You aren't the only one bro

09-19-2012, 10:34 AM	#21
228jits Southern Sooner Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gulfcoast, MS Posts: 83	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by GeauxForMore All I know is we played RGlll week 1 and Cam week 2. They have non-traditional O's. I think it would be hard for any new D to run well against that. All that being said this week is my last week defending Spags if the D doesn't show some signs of improvement. Like you know STOPPING PEOPLE ON 3 AND LONG....................Oh and I pray Drew plays his game. Looks like he is spread as thin as our CB's. You can't be coach, QB, motivational speaker, GM, water boy, and try to show everyone you deserved that contract. Just Dew you Drew. Tampa seemed to handle Cam and RB's pretty well when they played. Jeff Fisher seemed to contain RG3 pretty well too... I don't know.. I'm not on the blame Drew bandwagon. He's trying to make up for more than he has to in his entire time in NO. He has too much pressure on him (metaphorically and during the game!)

09-19-2012, 10:45 AM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by spkb25 Preseason doesn't matter. Plain and simple. It absolutely does matter, just not the score. Its a glorified scrimmage. Saying pre-season doesn't matter is like saying practice doesn't matter. (please don't post that Iverson nonsense)

09-19-2012, 11:05 AM	#23
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Spuds system will work with the right personnel that he don't have right now. He needs to adapt to what's s ail able to him and go from there, can he, will he that's the million dollar question

09-19-2012, 11:48 AM	#24
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by Joker Spuds system will work with the right personnel that he don't have right now. He needs to adapt to what's s ail able to him and go from there, can he, will he that's the million dollar question His past results more or less speak for themselves. He handled us pretty well last year with off-the-street 5th and 6th str CBs. And we had literally the best O-line in the league, and he still was able to get to us and disrupt Brees' rhythm (and sack him a couple of times to boot). Give the man some time to find his pieces and put them together how he likes. Keep in mind he's still largely playing with gregggggggggggggggggggggggggggs D

09-19-2012, 11:50 AM	#25
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by 228jits Tampa seemed to handle Cam and RB's pretty well Jeff Fisher seemed to contain RG3 pretty well too... I don't know.. ...hmm.. 300 yds passing/rushing with 3 TDs for Griffin against the Rams, with actual NFL footage to study for a week... Man, if that's "containment", I'd hate to see RG3 run wild.

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09-19-2012, 02:41 PM	#27
228jits Southern Sooner Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gulfcoast, MS Posts: 83	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ...hmm.. 300 yds passing/rushing with 3 TDs for Griffin against the Rams, with actual NFL footage to study for a week... Man, if that's "containment", I'd hate to see RG3 run wild. Nice that you can read stats. If you watched the game that the Rams actually touched RG3. They gave him problems. Because he was able to pass the ball for 300 yards means he was as advertised. And yes the contained him enough to win the game. Redskins are 1-1 the last time I checked. Let's compare game stats: Attempts/Completions 19/26 v NO 20/29 v STL Passing Yards 320 v NO 206 v STL Average per pass 12.31 v NO 7.10 v STL 2 TD v NO 1 TD 1 INT v STL Rushing attempts/yards/TD's 9/42/0 v NO 11/82/2 v STL

09-19-2012, 03:55 PM	#28
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by 228jits Nice that you can read stats. If you watched the game that the Rams actually touched RG3. They gave him problems. Because he was able to pass the ball for 300 yards means he was as advertised. And yes the contained him enough to win the game. Redskins are 1-1 the last time I checked. Gee, they touched him! The humanity. I am simply saying that a team "containing" a QB to 300 yds and 3 TDs is not really "containing" him, lest you expect RG3 to be gaining 400 yds and scoring 5 TDs a game.

09-19-2012, 04:38 PM	#29
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by AllSaints Chiefs game could be bad.... They have some weapons on Offense and sum studs on the D... Im hoping somehow someway we can get this win... Isn't it sad how we are talking about "getting away with" a win against an 0-2 team? Man, even given the off-season we had I would never have thought we would be in this position.

09-19-2012, 04:50 PM	#30
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Spags system will work but not yet(Warning lot of text). Originally Posted by blackangold Isn't it sad how we are talking about "getting away with" a win against an 0-2 team? Man, even given the off-season we had I would never have thought we would be in this position. You aren't the only one bro

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