Pierre Thomas Philosophy

jeanpierre · 09-23-2012, 05:40 PM

Have the Saints lost their way with regards to the Pierre Thomas Philosophy?

This is the one where no matter where you are drafted, what money were signed, that if you are performing the best you get playing time...

While they did move De La Puenta over Kreutz last season, it would seem they could do the same in a few other positions...

jeanpierre · 09-23-2012, 05:43 PM

Specifically, I could think of five starters or significant playing time players that have not been getting it done...

Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley...

saintsfan1976 · 09-23-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Specifically, I could think of five starters or significant playing time players that have not been getting it done...

Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley...

Ellis - 4 solo tckls, 10 assits so far. Invisible comes to mind.
Smith - was our best DE (four years ago)
Jenkins / Harper - these guys look completely confused
Ingram - is it me or is there rarely a hole for this guy??
Hartley - one more missed FG........

Marlboro Man · 09-24-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Specifically, I could think of five starters or significant playing time players that have not been getting it done...

Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley...

Actually, Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley, Robinson, Shanle, Bunkley, Colston, Graham. That's just off the top of my head.

jeanpierre · 09-23-2012, 05:54 PM

Oh, and was it or wasn't it a TD catch by PT - despite being a homer, I really didn't see compelling evidence to overturn the call on the field...

|Mitch| · 09-23-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Oh, and was it or wasn't it a TD catch by PT - despite being a homer, I really didn't see compelling evidence to overturn the call on the field...

Just from the replays I saw on TV, I thought he had his hand under the ball the whole time. Didn't look like it hit the ground at all...

frankeefrank · 09-23-2012, 05:59 PM

Thomas always makes plays, unless he is speared in the head by defenders... (See SF game)
Why we don't feature him as an every down back is beyond me.
Then again, when this team has a head coach, stuff like this is not a problem.

saintfan · 09-23-2012, 06:20 PM

IMO the entire defensive front could be replaced. It frankly couldn't get any worse.

Danno · 09-23-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

IMO the entire defensive front could be replaced. It frankly couldn't get any worse.

I'd include the entire front 7 in that statement. Maybe keep Jordan, Lofton, Bunkley and Hicks. The rest... meh.

You're right, journeymen couldn't be much worse.

|Mitch| · 09-23-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd include the entire front 7 in that statement. Maybe keep Jordan, Lofton, Bunkley and Hicks. The rest... meh.

You're right, journeymen couldn't be much worse.

I'd keep Wilson and let him start somewhere, LB/DE

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Originally Posted by jeanpierre Specifically, I could think of five starters or significant playing time players that have not been getting it done... Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley... Ellis - 4 solo tckls, 10 assits so far. Invisible comes to mind. Smith - was our best DE (four years ago) Jenkins / Harper - these guys look completely confused Ingram - is it me or is there rarely a hole for this guy?? Hartley - one more missed FG........

09-24-2012, 04:44 PM	#4
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Originally Posted by jeanpierre Specifically, I could think of five starters or significant playing time players that have not been getting it done... Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley... Actually, Ellis, Smith, Jenkins, Harper, Ingram, Hartley, Robinson, Shanle, Bunkley, Colston, Graham. That's just off the top of my head.

09-23-2012, 05:54 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Oh, and was it or wasn't it a TD catch by PT - despite being a homer, I really didn't see compelling evidence to overturn the call on the field...

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Originally Posted by jeanpierre Oh, and was it or wasn't it a TD catch by PT - despite being a homer, I really didn't see compelling evidence to overturn the call on the field... Just from the replays I saw on TV, I thought he had his hand under the ball the whole time. Didn't look like it hit the ground at all...

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frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Thomas always makes plays, unless he is speared in the head by defenders... (See SF game) Why we don't feature him as an every down back is beyond me. Then again, when this team has a head coach, stuff like this is not a problem.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Originally Posted by saintfan IMO the entire defensive front could be replaced. It frankly couldn't get any worse. I'd include the entire front 7 in that statement. Maybe keep Jordan, Lofton, Bunkley and Hicks. The rest... meh. You're right, journeymen couldn't be much worse.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Pierre Thomas Philosophy Originally Posted by Danno I'd include the entire front 7 in that statement. Maybe keep Jordan, Lofton, Bunkley and Hicks. The rest... meh. You're right, journeymen couldn't be much worse. I'd keep Wilson and let him start somewhere, LB/DE

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