How would you rebuild the Saints?

TheOak · 09-24-2012, 07:48 AM

We do not need to rebuild just yet. We need to play the players that we have.... Here is a list of my 'where are they' players.

Ivory - Has not dressed out for at least two games
Cadet - has not dressed out for at least two games.
Some of our starters need to be flipped to the non starting position in favor of their back up. They are not getting it done, and leaving them in to not get it done only make sure that the person behind them in the depth chart is not getting the experience he needs. If Smith is not going to get it done then Wilson needs to start getting experience and learn how to get it done.

I saw someone ask about cap space:

Two fold answer.

8.7 Mil when Smith/Vilma are suspended.
1.7 Mil when they are not

Yes... funky

xan · 09-24-2012, 07:53 AM

Ask Brees to give back $20 million so that we can get more quality players.

dizzle88 · 09-24-2012, 08:03 AM

Start by cutting - sed Ellis, will smith, Turk mcbride, Scott Shanle,

Free up some cap room, if Ingram can't get it done in our offense, is there really any point in him being here? Trade him and get a good draft pick

TheOak · 09-24-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Start by cutting - sed Ellis, will smith, Turk mcbride, Scott Shanle,

Free up some cap room, if Ingram can't get it done in our offense, is there really any point in him being here? Trade him and get a good draft pick

Salary cap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In transitions, if a player retires, is traded, or is cut before June 1, all remaining bonus is applied to the salary cap for the current season. If the payroll change occurs after June 1, the current season's bonus proration is unchanged, and the next year's cap must absorb the entire remaining bonus."

You can get around salary but not the bonuses as I read that.

GeauxForMore · 09-24-2012, 09:03 AM

Trade Brees.......really are some of u guys really Cowboys fans??????? This is how u rebuild the Saints:

1. Get Sean Payton back.
2. Get some talent on D-line for Spags defense. He needs more talent to work with.
3. Let some of the older guys who have been here awhile on D geaux. Yall can argue who.
4. Bring in another CB
5. Get another WR in the draft. Someone with some speed.

All and all when we get back number one off my list. We are back in the superbowl hunt.

TheOak · 09-24-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Trade Brees.......really are some of u guys really Cowboys fans??????? This is how u rebuild the Saints:

1. Get Sean Payton back.
2. Get some talent on D-line for Spags defense. He needs more talent to work with.
3. Let some of the older guys who have been here awhile on D geaux. Yall can argue who.
4. Bring in another CB
5. Get another WR in the draft. Someone with some speed.

All and all when we get back number one off my list. We are back in the superbowl hunt.

Rebuilding is a knee jerk hasty move is you ask me. We need to ride this year out, let Payton come back, and at that point we judge how much of this is due to a lack of him.. If we preform the same way next year, then we start a rebuild season.

Danno · 09-24-2012, 09:11 AM

Necessary upgrades
RT-Strief looks pathetic
LT-Bushrod looks almost as bad
RDE-Will Smith, he's now journeyman talent
DT-Sedrick Ellis is officially mediocre at best, BUST comes to mind
OLB-Hawthorne reminds me of Sedrick Hodge
OLB-Shanle reminds me of Scott Shanle

And I'm starting to worry about Colston and Jimmy Drop Graham

GeauxForMore · 09-24-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Rebuilding is a knee jerk hasty move is you ask me. We need to ride this year out, let Payton come back, and at that point we judge how much of this is due to a lack of him.. If we preform the same way next year, then we start a rebuild season.

True Dat. We re-tool not rebuild. Might of used the wrong term, but trading Brees is crazy talk to me.

TheOak · 09-24-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

True Dat. We re-tool not rebuild. Might of used the wrong term, but trading Brees is crazy talk to me.

See Danno's post above... Trades and cuts do need to happen, however those are players that were identified weaknesses before this season...

As far as for Colston and Graham... Flip the starting line up and use the people that we have as their back ups as starters to send a message.

jcp026 · 09-24-2012, 09:48 AM

2013 NFL Draft:
1. T DJ Fluker
3. S Robert Lester
4. WR Quinten Patton
5. TE Joseph Fauria
6. C Stephen Warner
7. Oscar Johnson

Get the head coach back.

09-24-2012, 07:48 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? We do not need to rebuild just yet. We need to play the players that we have.... Here is a list of my 'where are they' players. Ivory - Has not dressed out for at least two games Cadet - has not dressed out for at least two games. Some of our starters need to be flipped to the non starting position in favor of their back up. They are not getting it done, and leaving them in to not get it done only make sure that the person behind them in the depth chart is not getting the experience he needs. If Smith is not going to get it done then Wilson needs to start getting experience and learn how to get it done. I saw someone ask about cap space: Two fold answer. 8.7 Mil when Smith/Vilma are suspended. 1.7 Mil when they are not Yes... funky
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

09-24-2012, 07:53 AM	#12
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Ask Brees to give back $20 million so that we can get more quality players.

09-24-2012, 08:03 AM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Start by cutting - sed Ellis, will smith, Turk mcbride, Scott Shanle, Free up some cap room, if Ingram can't get it done in our offense, is there really any point in him being here? Trade him and get a good draft pick

09-24-2012, 08:35 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Start by cutting - sed Ellis, will smith, Turk mcbride, Scott Shanle, Free up some cap room, if Ingram can't get it done in our offense, is there really any point in him being here? Trade him and get a good draft pick Salary cap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "In transitions, if a player retires, is traded, or is cut before June 1, all remaining bonus is applied to the salary cap for the current season. If the payroll change occurs after June 1, the current season's bonus proration is unchanged, and the next year's cap must absorb the entire remaining bonus." You can get around salary but not the bonuses as I read that.

09-24-2012, 09:03 AM	#15
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 588	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Trade Brees.......really are some of u guys really Cowboys fans??????? This is how u rebuild the Saints: 1. Get Sean Payton back. 2. Get some talent on D-line for Spags defense. He needs more talent to work with. 3. Let some of the older guys who have been here awhile on D geaux. Yall can argue who. 4. Bring in another CB 5. Get another WR in the draft. Someone with some speed. All and all when we get back number one off my list. We are back in the superbowl hunt.

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09-24-2012, 09:07 AM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Trade Brees.......really are some of u guys really Cowboys fans??????? This is how u rebuild the Saints: 1. Get Sean Payton back. 2. Get some talent on D-line for Spags defense. He needs more talent to work with. 3. Let some of the older guys who have been here awhile on D geaux. Yall can argue who. 4. Bring in another CB 5. Get another WR in the draft. Someone with some speed. All and all when we get back number one off my list. We are back in the superbowl hunt. Rebuilding is a knee jerk hasty move is you ask me. We need to ride this year out, let Payton come back, and at that point we judge how much of this is due to a lack of him.. If we preform the same way next year, then we start a rebuild season. SaintsBro and Jamessr like this.

09-24-2012, 09:11 AM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Necessary upgrades RT-Strief looks pathetic LT-Bushrod looks almost as bad RDE-Will Smith, he's now journeyman talent DT-Sedrick Ellis is officially mediocre at best, BUST comes to mind OLB-Hawthorne reminds me of Sedrick Hodge OLB-Shanle reminds me of Scott Shanle And I'm starting to worry about Colston and Jimmy Drop Graham TheOak likes this.

09-24-2012, 09:27 AM	#18
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 588	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Originally Posted by x626xBlack Rebuilding is a knee jerk hasty move is you ask me. We need to ride this year out, let Payton come back, and at that point we judge how much of this is due to a lack of him.. If we preform the same way next year, then we start a rebuild season. True Dat. We re-tool not rebuild. Might of used the wrong term, but trading Brees is crazy talk to me.

09-24-2012, 09:31 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore True Dat. We re-tool not rebuild. Might of used the wrong term, but trading Brees is crazy talk to me. See Danno's post above... Trades and cuts do need to happen, however those are players that were identified weaknesses before this season... As far as for Colston and Graham... Flip the starting line up and use the people that we have as their back ups as starters to send a message.

09-24-2012, 09:48 AM	#20
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Re: How would you rebuild the Saints? 2013 NFL Draft: 1. T DJ Fluker 3. S Robert Lester 4. WR Quinten Patton 5. TE Joseph Fauria 6. C Stephen Warner 7. Oscar Johnson Get the head coach back.
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