lumm0x

Better off just to fold the team. Talking of trading or not re-signing the best player we have or have ever had is just lunacy. I guess the ship has really sunk for some. Time to get off then.

TheOak

We do not need to rebuild just yet. We need to play the players that we have.... Here is a list of my 'where are they' players.

Ivory - Has not dressed out for at least two games
Cadet - has not dressed out for at least two games.
Some of our starters need to be flipped to the non starting position in favor of their back up. They are not getting it done, and leaving them in to not get it done only make sure that the person behind them in the depth chart is not getting the experience he needs. If Smith is not going to get it done then Wilson needs to start getting experience and learn how to get it done.


I saw someone ask about cap space:

Two fold answer.

8.7 Mil when Smith/Vilma are suspended.
1.7 Mil when they are not

Yes... funky

NuNu318

I've been harping on this for weeks. If you noticed towards the end of the game you saw Ellis on the bench in favor for Hicks. Hicks/Bunkley/Johnson need to be our main DTs because Ellis is a bust plain & simple. Soon as Hicks came in the game you saw a lot more stops at the line and past the line of scrimmage. I understand he's raw but this dude has too much god given talent and strenghth for him to be behind a overpaid bust from a powerhouse school that has a kid from Canada playing much better than he EVER has. There is a reason Les Miles wanted him at LSU. I think Isa Abdul needs to start for one of the safties (honestly either or cuz both have no ball skills and Isa has proved he is more than able to cover and make plays on the ball all through preseason).

I know people are down on Morgan but IMHO....both he and Roby (with Henderson) need to be our outside WRs right now. If I'm the OC my game plan for them when they are in the game. Run straight up the field. These guys are burners...even if one of em cant catch...you still stretch that defense and make them respect the deep pass opens up the middle.

And for the love of all that is Holy....please realize that right now...we can't throw the ball effectivly down the field. It really truly might be time (especailly when your main offensive play caller is out for the yr) to change the game plan for the season. We're 0-3 with absolutly nothing to lose....you have five........FIVE RB's. Run the damn ball and pass of playaction. Look at Houston....they don't as Schuab to do to much because they have 2 workhorses in the backfield. Passing 50 times a game has become predicatible...its NOT working. Out WRs can't get seperation and have the drops. Literally your best pass catchers are your 3 of your 5 RBs. Use that to your advantage. I mean I didn't see Sproles catching passes and exploiting the middle of the field at all which is one of his best and most effective traits. PT is a beast and can do it all...no if and or buts about that. I really wish they would just let him loose. He's healthier and stronger than he's ever been but they continue to be overprotective. Cadet can do what Sproles does but is a little stronger when running. Ivory is your violent runner and Ingram is your goaline TD speacialist.

Defense to me can do well but they have to let the young talent we have play. F*** Ellis, move Smith to the the pass rushing DT position (cuz he's big enough for it and his best move is the bull rush anyway), Put Gallete in his spot and rotate Wilson and Jordan (who to me is the only bright spot of the starting line) at the LDE position with Jordan occasionally going inside to DT too. AND PLAY HICKS FULL TIME!!!

The secondary to me played well against the Chiefs. You see the difference when Greer is on the field. But you can only cover for so long when your line cant get to the qb.

Its frustrating to go from a SB contending type team to bottom feeder....but I can't sit here and say I didn't see this coming eventually. We've been weak on D since the SB and nothing has been done about it really. They keep feeding us this spiel about "character players" in the locker room but they can't expect character to turn into talent. Shanle, Ellis, Smith....these guys might be nice guys, and good teammates but they just don't have the talent to cut it anymore. I just wish they would see that....

And though I believe Spags system can work its obvious that at this point and time he doesn't have the players that are either talented enough, or smart enough to execute the game plan. So until he can get to the draft/offseason and get the guys he needs for his scheme....he might have to use incorporate more blitzes into his scheme to get pressure.

xan

Ask Brees to give back $20 million so that we can get more quality players.

dizzle88

Start by cutting - sed Ellis, will smith, Turk mcbride, Scott Shanle,

Free up some cap room, if Ingram can't get it done in our offense, is there really any point in him being here? Trade him and get a good draft pick

TheOak

Salary cap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In transitions, if a player retires, is traded, or is cut before June 1, all remaining bonus is applied to the salary cap for the current season. If the payroll change occurs after June 1, the current season's bonus proration is unchanged, and the next year's cap must absorb the entire remaining bonus."

You can get around salary but not the bonuses as I read that.

GeauxForMore

Trade Brees.......really are some of u guys really Cowboys fans??????? This is how u rebuild the Saints:

1. Get Sean Payton back.
2. Get some talent on D-line for Spags defense. He needs more talent to work with.
3. Let some of the older guys who have been here awhile on D geaux. Yall can argue who.
4. Bring in another CB
5. Get another WR in the draft. Someone with some speed.

All and all when we get back number one off my list. We are back in the superbowl hunt.

TheOak

Rebuilding is a knee jerk hasty move is you ask me. We need to ride this year out, let Payton come back, and at that point we judge how much of this is due to a lack of him.. If we preform the same way next year, then we start a rebuild season.

GeauxForMore

True Dat. We re-tool not rebuild. Might of used the wrong term, but trading Brees is crazy talk to me.

TheOak

See Danno's post above... Trades and cuts do need to happen, however those are players that were identified weaknesses before this season...

As far as for Colston and Graham... Flip the starting line up and use the people that we have as their back ups as starters to send a message.