Mortgage the farm?

dizzle88 · 09-28-2012, 05:22 PM

With just two components added to the D, we would be extremely successful, just TWO

We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck

We need a ball hawk, Jenkins aint cutting it, he would make a good SS but not a FS, he doesnt have the instincts for the position and regularly gets caught out of position. We need someone like what earl thomas is for seattle, a dangerous safety that you need to know where he is, because one slip up and its going the other way.

If you imagine we get those two positions filled, Our LB's will eventually find their groove.
Cam Jordan is by far our best defensive player at the minute and looks fast our there, if we got the positions filled it would give martez time to develop as a pass rusher and most importantly put will smith on the bench.

Our DB's would play better because they could trust the safety to be back there, none of our DB's can trust malcolm jenkins because one stutter move and he's trailing the WR immediately.

Danno · 09-28-2012, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

With just two components added to the D, we would be extremely successful, just TWO

We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck

We need a ball hawk, Jenkins aint cutting it, he would make a good SS but not a FS, he doesnt have the instincts for the position and regularly gets caught out of position. We need someone like what earl thomas is for seattle, a dangerous safety that you need to know where he is, because one slip up and its going the other way.

If you imagine we get those two positions filled, Our LB's will eventually find their groove.
Cam Jordan is by far our best defensive player at the minute and looks fast our there, if we got the positions filled it would give martez time to develop as a pass rusher and most importantly put will smith on the bench.

Our DB's would play better because they could trust the safety to be back there, none of our DB's can trust malcolm jenkins because one stutter move and he's trailing the WR immediately.

I know you know football better than most, but I must disagree with your Jenkins assessment.

Its our CBs and LB's that are getting abused in the passing game. Granted Greer has been out and Robinson/Patrick were banged up. White is understandably getting schooled right now, but we've seen enough flashes to know this raw prospect looks like a solid prospect with some more development.

I do agree a stud RDE is a must. But I'd list both OLB spots as being more critical than upgrading Jenkins. I'd even list a stud DT alongside Bunkley as a must have also before FS. Hicks looks like he may just be that guy. He looks beastly.

dsrdsrdsr · 09-29-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck

How very true. And the only likely way to get one is through the draft. There's no way to trade for someone of that quality - well, maybe if the team you're trading with is in cap hell, is losing, and is a bit fed up with their star player. And even then it will cost 2 first rounders and a second rounder.

The only player-for-draft-picks trade that actually netted a blockbuster player (that I can remember) was when Green Bay gave up a first round for Brett Favre. That cost a first round pick, but was only so cheap because he was Atlanta's third choice QB and a bit of a hellraiser. They didn't know how good he was.

09-28-2012, 05:22 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Mortgage the farm? With just two components added to the D, we would be extremely successful, just TWO We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck We need a ball hawk, Jenkins aint cutting it, he would make a good SS but not a FS, he doesnt have the instincts for the position and regularly gets caught out of position. We need someone like what earl thomas is for seattle, a dangerous safety that you need to know where he is, because one slip up and its going the other way. If you imagine we get those two positions filled, Our LB's will eventually find their groove. Cam Jordan is by far our best defensive player at the minute and looks fast our there, if we got the positions filled it would give martez time to develop as a pass rusher and most importantly put will smith on the bench. Our DB's would play better because they could trust the safety to be back there, none of our DB's can trust malcolm jenkins because one stutter move and he's trailing the WR immediately. Shoe. likes this.
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09-28-2012, 05:49 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Mortgage the farm? Originally Posted by dizzle88 With just two components added to the D, we would be extremely successful, just TWO We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck We need a ball hawk, Jenkins aint cutting it, he would make a good SS but not a FS, he doesnt have the instincts for the position and regularly gets caught out of position. We need someone like what earl thomas is for seattle, a dangerous safety that you need to know where he is, because one slip up and its going the other way. If you imagine we get those two positions filled, Our LB's will eventually find their groove. Cam Jordan is by far our best defensive player at the minute and looks fast our there, if we got the positions filled it would give martez time to develop as a pass rusher and most importantly put will smith on the bench. Our DB's would play better because they could trust the safety to be back there, none of our DB's can trust malcolm jenkins because one stutter move and he's trailing the WR immediately. I know you know football better than most, but I must disagree with your Jenkins assessment. Its our CBs and LB's that are getting abused in the passing game. Granted Greer has been out and Robinson/Patrick were banged up. White is understandably getting schooled right now, but we've seen enough flashes to know this raw prospect looks like a solid prospect with some more development. I do agree a stud RDE is a must. But I'd list both OLB spots as being more critical than upgrading Jenkins. I'd even list a stud DT alongside Bunkley as a must have also before FS. Hicks looks like he may just be that guy. He looks beastly. Shoe. likes this.

09-29-2012, 06:44 PM	#3
dsrdsrdsr Registered Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 34	Re: Mortgage the farm? Originally Posted by dizzle88 We need a DE that can consistently get to the QB a type of player that resembles demarcus ware, jared allen, aldon smith, justin tuck How very true. And the only likely way to get one is through the draft. There's no way to trade for someone of that quality - well, maybe if the team you're trading with is in cap hell, is losing, and is a bit fed up with their star player. And even then it will cost 2 first rounders and a second rounder. The only player-for-draft-picks trade that actually netted a blockbuster player (that I can remember) was when Green Bay gave up a first round for Brett Favre. That cost a first round pick, but was only so cheap because he was Atlanta's third choice QB and a bit of a hellraiser. They didn't know how good he was.
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