Spags were is Martez Wilson ????

ChrisXVI · 10-05-2012, 09:26 PM

Martez is getting plenty of time on the field. These past 2 games I've seen multiple snaps where we were using Spag's Nascar package with Martez and Gallette at DE and Smith and Jordan inside at DT. It's just a matter of Martez learning how to play DE as the season goes along.

winmill1 · 10-06-2012, 05:01 PM

In preseason he had monster game at De. I don't know why we didn't try him there during regular season.

Danno · 10-06-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Question why did we let Jo Lon Dunbar go ?

JoLonn didn't do well outside here, but had pretty good grades at MLB, but since we had Vilma and Lofton there was no sense in paying good money for a 3rd stinger, even if he's almost as good as our starters.

I always liked him, just as I always like Usama Young. They played better than many gave them credit for and are the types of players I admire on and off the field.

I'm a big fan of Jo Lonn Dunbar. There were quite a few of us that liked him here too at MLB, but not OLB. I'm surprised to see him doing so well outside. I honestly didn't see that coming.

CharityMike · 10-06-2012, 05:32 PM

Our D line and LB have been poor for..I don't know..EVER. At what point do we think maybe it's not the players but maybe it's the person coaching the players? Whats the constant in this scenario?

jeanpierre · 10-06-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

...I'm a big fan of Jo Lonn Dunbar. There were quite a few of us that liked him here too at MLB, but not OLB. I'm surprised to see him doing so well outside. I honestly didn't see that coming.

I'll tell you why - it's the play of their interior defensive linemen; if you want to see good linebackers neutralized - put schiotty defensive line play in front of them and kah-put, no more linebacker play...

Speedy Ron · 10-06-2012, 08:03 PM

Martez is too stupid to make it onto the field. Do people honestly think that the best players are not playing?!?!?!

jeanpierre · 10-06-2012, 10:35 PM

In 1990, the Saints drafted Renaldo Turnbull to match opposite Wayne Martin...

Jim Mora had one of the most legendary man-crushes I've ever seen...

It was embarrassing - Mora was as bad as Ralphie stroking off the Major Award, Fragile' Leg Lamp in Christmas Story...

The guy was a physical marvel, but it never translated to the field...

I worry that we don't have the coach/coaches on defense that can find this guy a way to maximize his potential...

Or worse, he's a total 'tard and that we may simply have to tell him like the Hulk "Smash Man With Ball"...

Hagan is write - B&G needs to put up a permanent, dynamic list of radio/TV talk shows schedule so that we can hit these "call-ins" early, often with questions like

"Why isn't Martez Wilson on the field more?"

"Why did we draft him in the third round if we aren't going to play him?"

"Did he in fact play his balls off and causing him to be "debacled"?!? (See Emmett Smith's Colloquial Dictionary for Dummies)

alleycat_126 · 10-07-2012, 03:48 AM

The pieces in the car, are worn and run down. But the car still runs and you refuse to take it to a mechanic because until it breaks fully it's no use in wasting what miles it has left.

^^^^ Saints Defense...... Before the Super Bowl season both Fujita and Shanle were on the chopping block, they have lived with Shanle for way too long. You can now add Will Smith to the list of parts that needs to be replaced.

As far as Wilson. Even converted he is the best player on the D - Line there is no way he should come off the field. I think he would have been better served if Greg Romeus would have stayed healthy and battled will smith for the other DE spot.

halloween 65 · 10-07-2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'll tell you why - it's the play of their interior defensive linemen; if you want to see good linebackers neutralized - put schiotty defensive line play in front of them and kah-put, no more linebacker play...

Very,very true!!

halloween 65 · 10-07-2012, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

The pieces in the car, are worn and run down. But the car still runs and you refuse to take it to a mechanic because until it breaks fully it's no use in wasting what miles it has left.

^^^^ Saints Defense...... Before the Super Bowl season both Fujita and Shanle were on the chopping block, they have lived with Shanle for way too long. You can now add Will Smith to the list of parts that needs to be replaced.

As far as Wilson. Even converted he is the best player on the D - Line there is no way he should come off the field. I think he would have been better served if Greg Romeus would have stayed healthy and battled will smith for the other DE spot.

Romeus if someway ever overcomes his injurys could be the player to lead the D to a higher standand, I just don't know if his body will let it happen. The Saints coaches know what they may get and if this was any other player he would be gone, Romeus has the drive in him that is rare.

10-05-2012, 09:26 PM	#21
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Martez is getting plenty of time on the field. These past 2 games I've seen multiple snaps where we were using Spag's Nascar package with Martez and Gallette at DE and Smith and Jordan inside at DT. It's just a matter of Martez learning how to play DE as the season goes along.

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10-06-2012, 05:15 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Originally Posted by QBREES9 Question why did we let Jo Lon Dunbar go ? JoLonn didn't do well outside here, but had pretty good grades at MLB, but since we had Vilma and Lofton there was no sense in paying good money for a 3rd stinger, even if he's almost as good as our starters. I always liked him, just as I always like Usama Young. They played better than many gave them credit for and are the types of players I admire on and off the field. I'm a big fan of Jo Lonn Dunbar. There were quite a few of us that liked him here too at MLB, but not OLB. I'm surprised to see him doing so well outside. I honestly didn't see that coming.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Originally Posted by Danno ...I'm a big fan of Jo Lonn Dunbar. There were quite a few of us that liked him here too at MLB, but not OLB. I'm surprised to see him doing so well outside. I honestly didn't see that coming. I'll tell you why - it's the play of their interior defensive linemen; if you want to see good linebackers neutralized - put schiotty defensive line play in front of them and kah-put, no more linebacker play...

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10-07-2012, 03:48 AM	#28
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? The pieces in the car, are worn and run down. But the car still runs and you refuse to take it to a mechanic because until it breaks fully it's no use in wasting what miles it has left. ^^^^ Saints Defense...... Before the Super Bowl season both Fujita and Shanle were on the chopping block, they have lived with Shanle for way too long. You can now add Will Smith to the list of parts that needs to be replaced. As far as Wilson. Even converted he is the best player on the D - Line there is no way he should come off the field. I think he would have been better served if Greg Romeus would have stayed healthy and battled will smith for the other DE spot.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'll tell you why - it's the play of their interior defensive linemen; if you want to see good linebackers neutralized - put schiotty defensive line play in front of them and kah-put, no more linebacker play... Very,very true!!

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Originally Posted by alleycat_126 The pieces in the car, are worn and run down. But the car still runs and you refuse to take it to a mechanic because until it breaks fully it's no use in wasting what miles it has left. ^^^^ Saints Defense...... Before the Super Bowl season both Fujita and Shanle were on the chopping block, they have lived with Shanle for way too long. You can now add Will Smith to the list of parts that needs to be replaced. As far as Wilson. Even converted he is the best player on the D - Line there is no way he should come off the field. I think he would have been better served if Greg Romeus would have stayed healthy and battled will smith for the other DE spot. Romeus if someway ever overcomes his injurys could be the player to lead the D to a higher standand, I just don't know if his body will let it happen. The Saints coaches know what they may get and if this was any other player he would be gone, Romeus has the drive in him that is rare.

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