Spags were is Martez Wilson ????

hagan714 · 10-03-2012, 07:21 AM

ok i just read the post about Harper playing WLB for the saints due to injuries.

Whats wrong with Martez Wilson?

Is he a liability in coverage?

Is he a liability against the run?

Is he doing so well at DE we dare not move him?

Is he so bad at OLB we he is not worth developing?

Is he little more than a standout special team player ?

WTH is it?

Ok maybe it is time to stop playing around with the guy and pick a spot were he can grow into pro football player. so far the DE experiment has kept him of the field and in my opinion limiting his development.

Heck why not mess with his development some more and play him at SS?

Sorry i think this is a complete waste of potential talent that is better served at OLB with spot duty at DE

I want answers!

mighty12 · 10-03-2012, 07:28 AM

Shanle has GOT to go. As a person he is a great guy, but as an OLB he is weak.

Now to answer your question, Wilson is best used attacking the QB. Since we don't blitz in the Spags D he is best utilized as a DE but may be too small to get off the block. The way a player gets around this is by his first step, and since Wilson has played LB his whole career he may be having trouble coming out of his stance.

hagan714 · 10-03-2012, 07:33 AM

5 tackles to date? sorry failure and with injuries at wlb it makes no sense. with Wilson at OLB you can now blitz and at times let him play a stand up DE that can rush or drop back into his natural position makes more sense. heck move him all alone the line and make teams account for him

jeanpierre · 10-03-2012, 07:37 AM

Bam, Thank You, Hagan...

This is what I've been asking...

I'm tired of drafting guys for depth and "situational plays" - either they can play or not...

Younger players should be seeing a majority of snaps with the more seasoned guys put in for "situational plays"...

If I were a reporter I'd ask each week how is Martez Wilson progressing? will he see more snaps next week? what are his liabilities?

Compare this...

Will Smith, 6-3, 282lbs, 31yrs

Martez Wilson, 6-4, 252 lbs, 23yrs

Junior Galette has done anything in three years but proven to be a third down pass rusher and has produced pedestrian numbers at best...

And if Wilson is unable to process and develop as a player then we've reach a point where a hard look at the front office and defensive scouting dept needs to be made...

hagan714 · 10-03-2012, 08:08 AM

I want answers!
lets start bombing wwl and the picayune with question to ask

CharityMike · 10-03-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

then we've reach a point where a hard look at the front office and defensive scouting dept needs to be made...

Personally, we've reached that point a looong time ago. When was the last time we have had a baller on D? With as many first round picks there is on D, there lack of production is unacceptable. There needs to be a change made.

Danno · 10-03-2012, 08:21 AM

Well if there's one thing Spags knows its D-linemen. Wilson must be having some difficulty grasping his offense.

He'll come around.

Rugby Saint II · 10-03-2012, 02:45 PM

I think he played some DE in high school. Still, LB'er is his natural position. Spags needs to get him on the field and let him do his thing.

hagan714 · 10-05-2012, 01:54 AM

ok back to the point. why harper over wilson at lb?

Mardigras9 · 10-05-2012, 12:37 PM

Hell put Shanle on the already ineffective D-line, at least he won't get in anyones way.

10-03-2012, 07:21 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? ok i just read the post about Harper playing WLB for the saints due to injuries. Whats wrong with Martez Wilson? Is he a liability in coverage? Is he a liability against the run? Is he doing so well at DE we dare not move him? Is he so bad at OLB we he is not worth developing? Is he little more than a standout special team player ? WTH is it? Ok maybe it is time to stop playing around with the guy and pick a spot were he can grow into pro football player. so far the DE experiment has kept him of the field and in my opinion limiting his development. Heck why not mess with his development some more and play him at SS? Sorry i think this is a complete waste of potential talent that is better served at OLB with spot duty at DE I want answers! Boutte, QBREES9, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.
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10-03-2012, 07:28 AM	#2
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Shanle has GOT to go. As a person he is a great guy, but as an OLB he is weak. Now to answer your question, Wilson is best used attacking the QB. Since we don't blitz in the Spags D he is best utilized as a DE but may be too small to get off the block. The way a player gets around this is by his first step, and since Wilson has played LB his whole career he may be having trouble coming out of his stance.

10-03-2012, 07:33 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? 5 tackles to date? sorry failure and with injuries at wlb it makes no sense. with Wilson at OLB you can now blitz and at times let him play a stand up DE that can rush or drop back into his natural position makes more sense. heck move him all alone the line and make teams account for him Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Bam, Thank You, Hagan... This is what I've been asking... I'm tired of drafting guys for depth and "situational plays" - either they can play or not... Younger players should be seeing a majority of snaps with the more seasoned guys put in for "situational plays"... If I were a reporter I'd ask each week how is Martez Wilson progressing? will he see more snaps next week? what are his liabilities? Compare this... Will Smith, 6-3, 282lbs, 31yrs Martez Wilson, 6-4, 252 lbs, 23yrs Junior Galette has done anything in three years but proven to be a third down pass rusher and has produced pedestrian numbers at best... And if Wilson is unable to process and develop as a player then we've reach a point where a hard look at the front office and defensive scouting dept needs to be made...
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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Spags were is Martez Wilson ???? Originally Posted by jeanpierre then we've reach a point where a hard look at the front office and defensive scouting dept needs to be made... Personally, we've reached that point a looong time ago. When was the last time we have had a baller on D? With as many first round picks there is on D, there lack of production is unacceptable. There needs to be a change made.

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