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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I don't buy it. The passing yardage I understand, Completion % I understand, the rules have made those more attainable. Not the consecutive TD record, not unless you can show me a game where Drew had 1 TD pass and ...

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Old 10-05-2012, 07:15 AM   #1
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

I don't buy it. The passing yardage I understand, Completion % I understand, the rules have made those more attainable. Not the consecutive TD record, not unless you can show me a game where Drew had 1 TD pass and a changing of the rules made it a TD. Just saying that they throw more does not effect 1 TD in every game, career TDs yes but not 1 TD per game. You could even asterisk multiple TD games but not 1, not when no one is close to him. Brady may be only be 11 behind him... thats 11 games with a TD, not just TDs.

47 games with a TD means that in nearly three full seasons no ones secondary has been able to shut down Drew.

If you could show me anyone close to Brees in present day I would be glad to listen to the rest of your story.

Brett "Gunslinger" Favre got shut down at 36 in 2004.
Brady has an active streak at 36.
Marino made it to 30.
Manning in the same era couldn't get past 27.
and that's it... there are no historical streaks above 30, other than those.
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Because it is the Saints. Because it is Drew Brees... Those are the only records people want to asterisk.

Teams with hell of a lot better receivers than we have couldn't touch it.
Montana Rice
Young Rice
Manning Harrison

So if you want to asterisk it... then asterisk it with *Did more with less.

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Old 10-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #2
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

Marino, Favre, Brady, Manning, Starbach, Akin, Elway, Montana, Bradshaw.

These are great QB's. This is a list of HOF'ers and future HOF'ers.

They never tied Johnny.

As far as individual stats go; Drew has the potential to break all the QB records. As unhappy as I was about the contract thing; I am happy for him and hope he gets it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:55 AM   #3
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

Yep, like others have said. You can tie the record in 3 years so if it's so easy to do with this new pass happy league every QB in the league since 2009 should be tying it by the reporter's thinking.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #4
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

I completely agree with those who've said that if it was easy, it'd have been done by now. (And I especially liked 656's post.)

Now to address the reporter. What's to stop Drew from taking the streak to 63?
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

Of course it is, but if he keeps going then he will surpass Unitas...maybe 58?
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

I wonder if Alok Pattani considered the converse of his argument when comparing Johnny U and Brees?

How many teams in the Unitas era had defenses prepared to stop the pass?

How many teams had truly quality defensive backs that could cover receivers?

How much time did Unitas have to read and throw versus Brees' time against the pass rush of today?
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I wonder if Alok Pattani considered the converse of his argument when comparing Johnny U and Brees?

How many teams in the Unitas era had defenses prepared to stop the pass?

How many teams had truly quality defensive backs that could cover receivers?

How much time did Unitas have to read and throw versus Brees' time against the pass rush of today?
I mentioned this yesterday to my co-workers and they slammed their lips shut and had to walk away.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

The NFL has changed so much over the years... trying to compare today's greats to past greats just isn't fair to anyone involved.

Today's players I believe as a whole are better then era’s past... there is more publicity for the sport than ever before, which has led to more people dreaming of being there, and more chances to compete in local leagues, school leagues, the NCAA to build skills, and then go pro… the process weeds out a lot more people who might have made it in the past. And there is a LOT more money.., elite athletes have opportunities to make millions now where as there was a time where offseason stuff wouldn't happen because players had to work 9-5 jobs most of the year... and wouldn't get by without those jobs.

I remember when Tomlinson broke the most points in a single season record... the player who had it before was saying "I did it in less games"... IIRC (and I could be wrong) that former player was the kicker as well as the one scoring the points... so he would get the PATs and the FGs as well... Trying to compare the two men was not fair to either of them. The era's of the game were to different.

Despite that... Tomlinson celebrating that record was one of the greatest sports moments of my life... and Saints fans will and should say the same thing about Brees if he breaks the record. (more likely than not he will, but in the NFL there are no guarantees).

The past players built the league for today's players and fans... and in 30 years when the players are even bigger faster and stronger than they are now... they will be asking the same thing when Brees, Tomlinson, Peterson, Brady, etc have their records broken... It is an accomplishment no matter what era it happens in but a past players record being broken shouldn't reflect badly on those legends... we never will know what they would be like if they played today.

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I do not agree with your opinion but respect it. I seriously think Drew would rather take 4-0 with no record over 0-4 with it. Obviously this cannot ever be verified, but the year Drew had a chance at breaking the season passing yards and the Saints were out of it, he seriously under threw his WR and the record didn't happen. To this day I believe that was intentional.
I sign off on this, matt!!!
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Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?

The rules in the way a DB can cover a wide receiver have changed since Marino, Elway, Montana, Favre to that era of football maybe diminished a little. From the Unitas days OMG I would say it's changed tremendously, has it diminished Drew's accomplishments, no way he still had to throw the ball.
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