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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Pro-Bowl shouldn't be in this discussion. Give me Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles who have never made a Pro Bowl over Pro Bowlers Ryan Matthews and Antonio Brown any day....
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Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002
Pro-Bowl shouldn't be in this discussion.
Give me Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles who have never made a Pro Bowl over Pro Bowlers Ryan Matthews and Antonio Brown any day. |
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Why would he be "dying" over it? He is the one who DID it. He negotiated that deal, he wasn't suspended until Week 1, or did you not know that?
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Grant was a good DE for a season or two, and he was playing like a 1st rounder during that time-span, but he declined rapidly and just didn't have the mental side to make a lasting impact. While you can and do naturally take the mental side into consideration when scouting players, it's a much harder thing to get right than the physical prowess of a certain player, so it's hard to blame the scouting department for that. Grant's extension was an overpayment for sure - given what we know now - and it was even more so damaging because it set a precedent for Will Smith to ask for an equally pricey extension when his turn came around... the contract he is on at the moment, although it was re-structured. It's pretty much the same thing with that contract as happened with Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks - although Evans is on a completely different level than Grant and has earned his keep many times over - which basically set a precedent for Nicks that the Saints couldn't afford to pay him. And that is the one thing I criticize Loomis for: overpaying on extensions. Roman Harper is another example of this, and a definite overpayment. This is also why I was glad they let players like Meachem and Porter go elsewhere rather than overpaying them to stay. |
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Grant was very good when he wanted to be. But those motivated periods became fewer and further between until he wasn't carrying his very substantial weight anymore.
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro
He was dying over committing that much money to one player...
And, yeah, I've been keeping up with the Saints and the bounty thing... |
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Originally Posted by FinSaint
And maybe there was a lesson from the Grant signing, aside from the fact there wasn't going to be much money left from the Brees signing, maybe they looked at Nicks as a guy who was going to put out after the Big Mo...
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