Saints First Round Picks Since 2002

Danno · 10-07-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Saints First Round Picks since Mickey Loomis became GM of the New Orleans Saints...

2002 13 Donté Stallworth Wide receiver Tennessee
2002 25 Charles Grant Defensive end Georgia
2003 6 John Sullivan Defensive tackle Georgia
2004 18 Will Smith Defensive end Ohio State
2005 13 Jammal Brown Offensive tackle Oklahoma
2006 2 Reggie Bush Running back Southern California
2007 27 Robert Meachem Wide receiver Tennessee
2008 7 Sedrick Ellis Defensive tackle Southern California
2009 14 Malcolm Jenkins Defensive back Ohio State
2010 32 Patrick Robinson Cornerback Florida State
2011 24 Cameron Jordan Defensive end California
2011 28 Mark Ingram, Jr. Running back Alabama **
2012 — No pick** — —

You can see why I don't show much love for the Saints Front Office and Scouting Department under Mickey Loomis tenure...

...Granted, the FO hit home runs with the hiring of Sean Payton and the signing of Drew Brees - hell, even Aaron Boone hit a home run that got alot of attention that still didn't make him a great player...

I would argue that Loomis and Co. have been more fortuitous in their free agent signings and mid-late round picks than competent...

The recent woes of the Saints could be tied to the ineptness of the FO/Scouting Departments to provide Coach Payton (currently in absentia) with quality stock at positions other than Guard and Running Back...

Only quality picks in the above group were Jammal Brown, who we got little in return for his value at the time of the trade and Reggie Bush who despite never living up to unreal expectations, were the only picks the Loomis Saints tenure have gotten right...

In addition, some of the FA contract extensions, or lack thereof, also demand closer scrutiny...

Only 1 bust out of 12 picks? Thats outstanding.

blackangold · 10-07-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Only 1 bust out of 12 picks? Thats outstanding.

1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding.

Or not...

|Mitch| · 10-07-2012, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding.

Or not...

Pro-Bowls are nothing more than a popularity contest... Really not a good measuring stick...

blackangold · 10-07-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Pro-Bowls are nothing more than a popularity contest... Really not a good measuring stick...

Whats your measuring stick then? Stats?

what good stats do those individuals have?
Smith's career high 13.5 sacks..
Jenkins 0 ints over the last 2 years..
We could go on here, they all have been no shows in the NFL.

Danno · 10-07-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding.

Or not...

I didn't say that. Thats irrelevant to his conclusion that we picked only one quality player in 12 picks.
Nice try... or not.

blackangold · 10-07-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I didn't say that. Thats irrelevant to his conclusion that we picked only one quality player in 12 picks.
Nice try... or not.

I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players in the 1st round and passed up on them.

Danno · 10-07-2012, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players in the 1st round and passed up on them.

That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to.

Two strikes on one pitch. Awesome... or not.

blackangold · 10-07-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to.

Two strikes on one pitch. Awesome... or not.

Not sure what your responding to then...

cheers

Danno · 10-07-2012, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Not sure what your responding to then...

cheers

On 2nd tought, you have a valid counter-point.

12 picks and only 1 pro-bowler - Not outstanding

but

12 picks and only 1 bust - Outstanding

And I thought Smith and Grant made it one year as alternates?

10-07-2012, 09:07 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by jeanpierre Saints First Round Picks since Mickey Loomis became GM of the New Orleans Saints... 2002 13 Donté Stallworth Wide receiver Tennessee 2002 25 Charles Grant Defensive end Georgia 2003 6 John Sullivan Defensive tackle Georgia 2004 18 Will Smith Defensive end Ohio State 2005 13 Jammal Brown Offensive tackle Oklahoma 2006 2 Reggie Bush Running back Southern California 2007 27 Robert Meachem Wide receiver Tennessee 2008 7 Sedrick Ellis Defensive tackle Southern California 2009 14 Malcolm Jenkins Defensive back Ohio State 2010 32 Patrick Robinson Cornerback Florida State 2011 24 Cameron Jordan Defensive end California 2011 28 Mark Ingram, Jr. Running back Alabama 2012 — No pick — — You can see why I don't show much love for the Saints Front Office and Scouting Department under Mickey Loomis tenure... ...Granted, the FO hit home runs with the hiring of Sean Payton and the signing of Drew Brees - hell, even Aaron Boone hit a home run that got alot of attention that still didn't make him a great player... I would argue that Loomis and Co. have been more fortuitous in their free agent signings and mid-late round picks than competent... The recent woes of the Saints could be tied to the ineptness of the FO/Scouting Departments to provide Coach Payton (currently in absentia) with quality stock at positions other than Guard and Running Back... Only quality picks in the above group were Jammal Brown, who we got little in return for his value at the time of the trade and Reggie Bush who despite never living up to unreal expectations, were the only picks the Loomis Saints tenure have gotten right... In addition, some of the FA contract extensions, or lack thereof, also demand closer scrutiny... Only 1 bust out of 12 picks? Thats outstanding. SaintsBro likes this.

10-07-2012, 04:50 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by Danno Only 1 bust out of 12 picks? Thats outstanding. 1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding. Or not...

10-07-2012, 04:51 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by blackangold 1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding. Or not... Pro-Bowls are nothing more than a popularity contest... Really not a good measuring stick... TheOak likes this.

10-07-2012, 04:55 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Pro-Bowls are nothing more than a popularity contest... Really not a good measuring stick... Whats your measuring stick then? Stats? what good stats do those individuals have? Smith's career high 13.5 sacks.. Jenkins 0 ints over the last 2 years.. We could go on here, they all have been no shows in the NFL.

10-07-2012, 04:55 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by blackangold 1 pro-bowler out of 12 picks... outstanding. Or not... I didn't say that. Thats irrelevant to his conclusion that we picked only one quality player in 12 picks. Nice try... or not.

10-07-2012, 04:57 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by Danno I didn't say that. Thats irrelevant to his conclusion that we picked only one quality player in 12 picks. Nice try... or not. I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players in the 1st round and passed up on them. jeanpierre likes this.

10-07-2012, 05:00 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by blackangold I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players in the 1st round and passed up on them. That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to. Two strikes on one pitch. Awesome... or not.

10-07-2012, 05:02 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by Danno That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to. Two strikes on one pitch. Awesome... or not. Not sure what your responding to then... cheers

10-07-2012, 05:11 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002 Originally Posted by blackangold Not sure what your responding to then... cheers On 2nd tought, you have a valid counter-point. 12 picks and only 1 pro-bowler - Not outstanding but 12 picks and only 1 bust - Outstanding And I thought Smith and Grant made it one year as alternates?

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