Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers

10-09-2012, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Did you notice who was playing? We had 4 DE's in the game. Smith and Jordan inside with Gallete and Wilson on the outside. That is a great lineup for passing downs, not sure on running downs though.

The commentator did make a comment that the "pressure" squad was in. Made me watch a little closer.

i somewhat suspect that they could do no worse against the run than our "run squad"

Rugby Saint II · 10-09-2012, 01:41 PM

This season we haven't had opponents against the ropes. They run to finish the game out and the nascar package might not be effective.

Rell&Gold · 10-09-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

"the front four at the end there getting to the quarterback when we really needed them to do that"

Could we possibly REALLY NEED them to do that more often?

LOL..yea if we could get that for 4 quarters instead of 4 minutes that would be nice

Radical · 10-09-2012, 06:17 PM

He needs to be asked why his defense is on pace to give up the most yards in NFL history... at the same rate the NO offense set the NFL record for the most prolific offense in NFL history last year, 456 yards a game(and at least 420 in every game so far), 31 yards more per game than the 1981 Baltimore Colts.

saintsfan1976 · 10-09-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

The commentator did make a comment that the "pressure" squad was in. Made me watch a little closer.

i somewhat suspect that they could do no worse against the run than our "run squad"

Funny. "pressure" and "run" would not be what I'd use to characterize those defenses.

FinSaint · 10-10-2012, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Did you notice who was playing? We had 4 DE's in the game. Smith and Jordan inside with Gallete and Wilson on the outside. That is a great lineup for passing downs, not sure on running downs though.

Yeah, but last week that particular front 4 line-up wasn't able to create any pass rush to speak of, so maybe it was more about the Chargers' O-line underperforming as opposed to just the Saints' front 4 - especially the LT, Gather.

dizzle88 · 10-10-2012, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yeah, but last week that particular front 4 line-up wasn't able to create any pass rush to speak of, so maybe it was more about the Chargers' O-line underperforming as opposed to just the Saints' front 4 - especially the LT, Gather.

The packers had the worst o line in the league and we didn't get to Rodgers all day, didn't even get a sack
Chargers o line wasn't worse than packers and the only difference is, we played Wilson and galette more versus the chargers

SaintsBro · 10-10-2012, 07:44 AM

I think it was Galette who did a spin move somewhere towards the end of the game and my eyeballs nearly fell out of my head -- felt like I had not seen a Saints D-lineman do anything that fancy in years! Usually they just sorta stand there locked up with the O linemen, humming and not going anywhere, spinning in circles, like those little electric football men.

TheOak · 10-10-2012, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Funny. "pressure" and "run" would not be what I'd use to characterize those defenses.

Ah! But you classify whats on the field when our offense is not on the field a "defense"...

Interesting... Tell me more about your travels.

FinSaint · 10-10-2012, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The packers had the worst o line in the league and we didn't get to Rodgers all day, didn't even get a sack
Chargers o line wasn't worse than packers and the only difference is, we played Wilson and galette more versus the chargers

Still, that doesn't negate the fact that this same "pass rush" front 4 wasn't able to create any pass rush against the Packers, even though they were give enough snaps to do so.

Wilson's sack/fumble/recovery was all on Jared Gaither, who was at that point suffering from an injury, which Wilson took full advantage of - for which you must give him credit for... but still...

I'd say that overall the Saints' front 4 were able to create more push consistently against the Chargers than the Packers. The one big difference between those two performances were the O-lines they were facing, hence my conclusion that the Chargers' O-line was one of the reasons why the Saints' front 4 were able to have a better game this past Sunday. I'm not saying that the Chargers' O-line played badly or that they are better or worse than the Packers' O-line - I'm simply saying that for whatever reason the Saints' front 4 were able to create better match-ups against the Chargers' O-line than they were against the Packers' O-line.

10-09-2012, 11:30 AM	#11
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Did you notice who was playing? We had 4 DE's in the game. Smith and Jordan inside with Gallete and Wilson on the outside. That is a great lineup for passing downs, not sure on running downs though. The commentator did make a comment that the "pressure" squad was in. Made me watch a little closer. i somewhat suspect that they could do no worse against the run than our "run squad"
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10-09-2012, 01:41 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers This season we haven't had opponents against the ropes. They run to finish the game out and the nascar package might not be effective.

10-09-2012, 02:01 PM	#13
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by x626xBlack "the front four at the end there getting to the quarterback when we really needed them to do that" Could we possibly REALLY NEED them to do that more often? LOL..yea if we could get that for 4 quarters instead of 4 minutes that would be nice

10-09-2012, 06:17 PM	#14
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10-09-2012, 06:28 PM	#15
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by x626xBlack The commentator did make a comment that the "pressure" squad was in. Made me watch a little closer. i somewhat suspect that they could do no worse against the run than our "run squad" Funny. "pressure" and "run" would not be what I'd use to characterize those defenses.

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10-10-2012, 06:10 AM	#16
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Did you notice who was playing? We had 4 DE's in the game. Smith and Jordan inside with Gallete and Wilson on the outside. That is a great lineup for passing downs, not sure on running downs though. Yeah, but last week that particular front 4 line-up wasn't able to create any pass rush to speak of, so maybe it was more about the Chargers' O-line underperforming as opposed to just the Saints' front 4 - especially the LT, Gather.

10-10-2012, 06:29 AM	#17
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by FinSaint Yeah, but last week that particular front 4 line-up wasn't able to create any pass rush to speak of, so maybe it was more about the Chargers' O-line underperforming as opposed to just the Saints' front 4 - especially the LT, Gather. The packers had the worst o line in the league and we didn't get to Rodgers all day, didn't even get a sack Chargers o line wasn't worse than packers and the only difference is, we played Wilson and galette more versus the chargers

10-10-2012, 07:44 AM	#18
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers I think it was Galette who did a spin move somewhere towards the end of the game and my eyeballs nearly fell out of my head -- felt like I had not seen a Saints D-lineman do anything that fancy in years! Usually they just sorta stand there locked up with the O linemen, humming and not going anywhere, spinning in circles, like those little electric football men.

10-10-2012, 08:02 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Funny. "pressure" and "run" would not be what I'd use to characterize those defenses. Ah! But you classify whats on the field when our offense is not on the field a "defense"... Interesting... Tell me more about your travels.

10-10-2012, 08:57 AM	#20
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Steve Spagnuolo Reviews Defensive Performance Against Chargers Originally Posted by dizzle88 The packers had the worst o line in the league and we didn't get to Rodgers all day, didn't even get a sack Chargers o line wasn't worse than packers and the only difference is, we played Wilson and galette more versus the chargers Still, that doesn't negate the fact that this same "pass rush" front 4 wasn't able to create any pass rush against the Packers, even though they were give enough snaps to do so. Wilson's sack/fumble/recovery was all on Jared Gaither, who was at that point suffering from an injury, which Wilson took full advantage of - for which you must give him credit for... but still... I'd say that overall the Saints' front 4 were able to create more push consistently against the Chargers than the Packers. The one big difference between those two performances were the O-lines they were facing, hence my conclusion that the Chargers' O-line was one of the reasons why the Saints' front 4 were able to have a better game this past Sunday. I'm not saying that the Chargers' O-line played badly or that they are better or worse than the Packers' O-line - I'm simply saying that for whatever reason the Saints' front 4 were able to create better match-ups against the Chargers' O-line than they were against the Packers' O-line.
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