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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Now, let me ask you, remember 2010 and the fines Dunta Robinson got for spearing WRs, all illegal hits ? Remember your coach saying "that is how we coach them" when asked about Robinson's hits? What ...
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
Dunta Robinson never speared any WR.
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
Here's a video of Dunta Robinson spearing two wide receivers.
Sure looks like he's using this helmet as a weapon to lay out those receivers. League must've thought so too. They fined him $25,000 for the first one and $40,000 for the second one. And coach Mike Smith's response to reporters about the hits was "That's the way we teach it" |
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
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And in neither case, the word spearing didn't come up. In the Jackson hit, it was for hitting a "defenseless" receiver, and in the Maclin case, it was for a helmet to helmet hit and for hitting a defenseless receiver. Against Jackson, it wasn't even a helmet to helmet hit, nor did he makes initial contact with his helmet, so again, it isn't spearing. ![]()
And of course, Smith's quote is in reference to hitting "defenseless" receivers, not making helmet to helmet hits, which again only happened on one of those plays. |
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
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You should just stop. Really... stop. ![]()
Helmet to helmet is not a spear? What did he lead with, his coccyx? Unlike Atlanta fans apparently, we do not need Youtube to define football actions. |
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No, helmet to helmet is not a spear. I suggest you read the rules.
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Any contact where the defender holds his arms to the side and throws his body at someone leading with the helmet is a spear.
Doesn't matter if the penalty was for H2H... He just speared the helmet. "If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily. Go away please. You are making this way too easy and there is no challenge. Thank you drive through.. |
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
Now who's playing with semantics here.
Let me rephrase then: Dunta Robinson was flagged right after each play for illegal hits on defenseless players, then was heavily fined for his illegal hits on defenseless players, and then your coach went to say "that is how we teach them". Now, what is the reason hitting a defenseless is illegal? Because of the extreme chance to injure the player. So why would you intentionally hit a defenseless player knowing it is illegal? Obviously to injure him. So, it logically follows that Coach Mike Smith teaches his players to take illegal hits to defenseless players to intentionally hurt them. |
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
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See the problem is we are not the NFL. If Godell came out and said what you did, they would all be crying. But because he is hammering us, it is ok and must be the gospel. Also don't leave out the fact you are talking about someone from his team. It's like in my post above yours, go away falcon fan. Should have known better than to think anyone from that crap fan base would actually be able to see through bull****. |
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Re: NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**
Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
So, Rad, it is pretty hard to argue that logic since it is exactly the same logic you are trying to use against the Saints.![]()
But, give it a try. Seriously. |
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