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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Radical Twist myself into a knot? 3. Against Maclin, initial contact was made by Dunta with his helmet when Maclin turned and was clipped on the chin, otherwise it would have been initial contact with his shoulder. ...

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Old 10-11-2012, 07:23 AM   #1
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Twist myself into a knot?

3. Against Maclin, initial contact was made by Dunta with his helmet when Maclin turned and was clipped on the chin, otherwise it would have been initial contact with his shoulder. Is it dumb for Robinson to put his head down when he does this? Yes. However, he's done this numerous times against other ball carriers and it's always a shoulder tackle.
I agree on 1. Indifferent on 2.

#3 however.... "otherwise" has no place in this... My aunt didn't have balls, otherwise she would have been my uncle.

Have you played much of the game? At no level is dropping your head before a tackle coached, condoned, or legal. When you say he has done it numerous times, your are basically saying he has attempted to spear numerous times.

Dropping your head before contact is a recipe for spinal injury, broken neck, missing a tackle because you took your eyes off the ball carrier. Dropping the head is using the helmet as a weapon, regardless of where it strikes or if the pads hit first. Its spearing and there is no way around that.

Argue this point: I will bet you he doesn't drop his head in practice when he tackles.... Because he has a different intent in practice than he does in a game. If he dropped his head in practice for a tackle someone would whip his ass.

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I agree on 1. Indifferent on 2.

#3 however.... "otherwise" has no place in this... My aunt didn't have balls, otherwise she would have been my uncle.

Have you played much of the game? At no level is dropping your head before a tackle coached, condoned, or legal. When you say he has done it numerous times, your are basically saying he has attempted to spear numerous times.

Dropping your head before contact is a recipe for spinal injury, broken neck, missing a tackle because you took your eyes off the ball carrier. Dropping the head is using the helmet as a weapon, regardless of where it strikes or if the pads hit first. Its spearing and there is no way around that.

Argue this point: I will bet you he doesn't drop his head in practice when he tackles.... Because he has a different intent in practice than he does in a game. If he dropped his head in practice for a tackle someone would whip his ass.
I've seem him do the exact move in practice, albeit rarely. It is poor form and dumb on his part, but when he connects cleanly it's always a shoulder tackle. I wouldn't be arguing this if I hadn't seen Dunta do that exact move many times to different ball carriers and it always result in a shoulder tackle.
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I've seem him do the exact move in practice, albeit rarely. It is poor form and dumb on his part, but when he connects cleanly it's always a shoulder tackle. I wouldn't be arguing this if I hadn't seen Dunta do that exact move many times to different ball carriers and it always result in a shoulder tackle.
Oh... you watch the practices now... Must be an insider.
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Oh... you watch the practices now... Must be an insider.
Or a voyeur.
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Or a voyeur.
He does watch ONE guy an awful lot.
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