NFL re-issues bounty disciplineUPDATED

Radical · 10-11-2012, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

"Cartoff" was a term used by Gregg Williams to mean a player that missed a play because of a hard legal hit. This has been supported by Vitt and several other players.

Once again, open your totally closed mind and realize that they were not putting up money for injuries. They were putting up money as a part of the overall pay for performance plan, that reward for large hits that could cause a player to miss a play or even the rest of the game. It specifically stated that it had to be a legal hit (upon review from the league) and not result in a penalty by that player or any other on the same play. It also was dependent upon them winning the game.

Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments.

saintfan · 10-11-2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Radical

Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments.

Roger? Is that you?

AsylumGuido · 10-12-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Radical

Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments.

No, you are wrong. The punishments were initially levied for claims that the Saints intentionally targeted opposing players for injury. That is a huge difference.

Answer me this ... was Sean Witherspoon getting paid when he delivered the following hit on Washington QB Robert Griffin III last week?

I believe he is getting paid millions of dollars to make those type of legal hits, which in some cases such as this results in a "cart-off". Do you think Coach Nolan chastised him for making that play in the defensive film study this week? Were his fellow players disgusted by the play? Chances are he was even rewarded in some way, be it a verbal "damn good hit" or maybe even an extra cookie. Either way it was surely celebrated in some form or fashion.

This is no different than what the Saints players were doing. They had an office pool that paid out small tokens for good legal plays. That's it. That's all.

10-11-2012, 10:16 PM	#1
Radical Falcons Fan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 148	Re: NFL re-issues bounty disciplineUPDATED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido "Cartoff" was a term used by Gregg Williams to mean a player that missed a play because of a hard legal hit. This has been supported by Vitt and several other players. Once again, open your totally closed mind and realize that they were not putting up money for injuries. They were putting up money as a part of the overall pay for performance plan, that reward for large hits that could cause a player to miss a play or even the rest of the game. It specifically stated that it had to be a legal hit (upon review from the league) and not result in a penalty by that player or any other on the same play. It also was dependent upon them winning the game. Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments.
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10-11-2012, 10:24 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL re-issues bounty disciplineUPDATED Originally Posted by Radical Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments. Roger? Is that you?

10-12-2012, 09:22 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: NFL re-issues bounty disciplineUPDATED Originally Posted by Radical Well Mitch says that cart-off was never used, but your very post says it. "Large hit that caused a player to miss a play or even the rest of thee game." That's paying for injuring other players, hence the punishments. No, you are wrong. The punishments were initially levied for claims that the Saints intentionally targeted opposing players for injury. That is a huge difference. Answer me this ... was Sean Witherspoon getting paid when he delivered the following hit on Washington QB Robert Griffin III last week? I believe he is getting paid millions of dollars to make those type of legal hits, which in some cases such as this results in a "cart-off". Do you think Coach Nolan chastised him for making that play in the defensive film study this week? Were his fellow players disgusted by the play? Chances are he was even rewarded in some way, be it a verbal "damn good hit" or maybe even an extra cookie. Either way it was surely celebrated in some form or fashion. This is no different than what the Saints players were doing. They had an office pool that paid out small tokens for good legal plays. That's it. That's all.

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