Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive

vpheughan · 10-23-2012, 08:30 AM

Shouldn't the title be "Stupid COACHing call keeps drive alive?"

TheOak · 10-23-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Shouldn't the title be "Stupid COACHing call keeps drive alive?"

Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out.

The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible.

Budsdrinker · 10-23-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out.

The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible.

Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball.

TheOak · 10-23-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball.

A 30 yard pass does not go to the intended receiver when tipped. A tip light enough to not deflect at all would have not been called a tip.

Jenkins and this play are apples to oranges. Had Williams not taken him self out it could have gone to an eligible receiver and been a TD.

Disagree if you like, it doesn't change the fact that when that ball left Freemans hand on its way to Williams the game was over no matter what happened after that.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-23-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball.

He didn't necessarily have to give up on the play, just not wave his hands to the QB as if saying "I'm open" because he should've known he wasn't eligible to touch the ball first; rather, since the QB was running, he could've blocked someone to clear space for another receiver to make the play, or clear a path for the ball carrier.

But really, at that point, in that situation, after being pushed out of bounds and knowing the rule, taking yourself out of the play is the smart thing to do. It has nothing to do with lack of effort.

burningmetal · 10-23-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out.

The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe he's referring to the FG attempt, which is what the headline refers to.

10-23-2012, 08:30 AM	#1
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive Originally Posted by vpheughan Shouldn't the title be "Stupid COACHing call keeps drive alive?" Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out. The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible.

10-23-2012, 08:44 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive Originally Posted by x626xBlack Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out. The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible. Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball.

10-23-2012, 09:08 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball. A 30 yard pass does not go to the intended receiver when tipped. A tip light enough to not deflect at all would have not been called a tip. Jenkins and this play are apples to oranges. Had Williams not taken him self out it could have gone to an eligible receiver and been a TD. Disagree if you like, it doesn't change the fact that when that ball left Freemans hand on its way to Williams the game was over no matter what happened after that.

10-23-2012, 09:25 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Can't agree with you on that. All it would have taken is one finger on the ball by any defender and that would have been a TD. Jenkins showed you never give up on a play no matter what. It's the one time I'm glad our defense didn't have their hands up and possibly tip that ball. He didn't necessarily have to give up on the play, just not wave his hands to the QB as if saying "I'm open" because he should've known he wasn't eligible to touch the ball first; rather, since the QB was running, he could've blocked someone to clear space for another receiver to make the play, or clear a path for the ball carrier. But really, at that point, in that situation, after being pushed out of bounds and knowing the rule, taking yourself out of the play is the smart thing to do. It has nothing to do with lack of effort.
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10-23-2012, 09:37 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bucs notes: Crucial call keeps Saints' TD drive alive Originally Posted by x626xBlack Nope... The WR should have known and taken him self out. QB cant see feet that far away to know if he was in or out. The WR should have let the QB know he was ineligible. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he's referring to the FG attempt, which is what the headline refers to.

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