What happened to Carl Nicks?

|Mitch| · 10-22-2012, 10:34 PM

That's why Grubbs is rated the #1, or he did a couple of weeks ago...

Brees makes O-Linemen better...

pherein · 10-23-2012, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That's why Grubbs is rated the #1, or he did a couple of weeks ago...

Brees makes O-Linemen better...

lol, yeah, helps when your average QB release of the ball is 3.5 sec, and the quickest in the NFL at a mind shattering 1.7 sec's. Does not give D time to respond, and blocking looks good because of it.

burningmetal · 10-23-2012, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

lol, yeah, helps when your average QB release of the ball is 3.5 sec, and the quickest in the NFL at a mind shattering 1.7 sec's. Does not give D time to respond, and blocking looks good because of it.

Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are.

We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed.

pherein · 10-23-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are.

We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed.

Yes Brees is really killing himself out there to, and I think their is a case to blame the OL this year for a lot of the 3 and outs, and the run game problems.
I have never seen the OL rate less that #5 sense 2006 and its true that Brees has a lot to do with that, but we are #20 at the run and #10 at pass protection.
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and that is completely unacceptable to drop so low so fast. I mean its easy to see why GB is struggling to at #28.
If we cant change the defense, and have to live with it, then we better damn sight fix the OL problems or we are going no where.

10-23-2012, 02:26 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by pherein lol, yeah, helps when your average QB release of the ball is 3.5 sec, and the quickest in the NFL at a mind shattering 1.7 sec's. Does not give D time to respond, and blocking looks good because of it. Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are. We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed.

10-23-2012, 09:41 PM	#4
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by burningmetal Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are. We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed. Yes Brees is really killing himself out there to, and I think their is a case to blame the OL this year for a lot of the 3 and outs, and the run game problems. I have never seen the OL rate less that #5 sense 2006 and its true that Brees has a lot to do with that, but we are #20 at the run and #10 at pass protection. FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis \| 2012 OFFENSIVE LINES and that is completely unacceptable to drop so low so fast. I mean its easy to see why GB is struggling to at #28. If we cant change the defense, and have to live with it, then we better damn sight fix the OL problems or we are going no where.
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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That's why Grubbs is rated the #1, or he did a couple of weeks ago... Brees makes O-Linemen better... lol, yeah, helps when your average QB release of the ball is 3.5 sec, and the quickest in the NFL at a mind shattering 1.7 sec's. Does not give D time to respond, and blocking looks good because of it.