Why Is the Defense So Bad?

TheOak · 11-02-2012, 08:19 AM

Harpers cap hit IF he is still with us is 7.1mm

If he is cut before the start of next season his cap hit due to signing bonus is only 1.75mm

Cutting him gives you 5.6mm to play with... Obviously structuring is what decides who/what talent you can bring in.

TheOak · 11-02-2012, 08:25 AM

I am not looking to cut anyone just wondering where those numbers came form. We only get hit with 1.75/ year. I have seen the Roto...

The 1mm and 1.5mm are workout bonuses. If he is cut.. there is no work out bonus, work out bonuses are not part of the guaranteed.

So we have to tow 1.75mm a year for 2013/2014

Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

Danno · 11-02-2012, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I am not looking to cut anyone just wondering where those numbers came form. We only get hit with 1.75/ year. I have seen the Roto...

The 1mm and 1.5mm are workout bonuses. If he is cut.. there is no work out bonus, work out bonuses are not part of the guaranteed.

So we have to tow 1.75mm a year for 2013/2014

Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

Both years would accelerate to 2013. You can't keep them spread out.

TheOak · 11-02-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Both years would accelerate to 2013. You can't keep them spread out.

Correct but if the team goes over the salary cap because of the subsequent amortized years of the signing bonus, the hit is realized the following year...

Deferred guaranteed bonus. So while we would get hit with the full two years bonus in 2013, the 2014 could be handled in 2014 if we exceed the cap in 2013.

Danno · 11-02-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Correct but if the team goes over the salary cap because of the subsequent amortized years of the signing bonus, the hit is realized the following year...

Deferred guaranteed bonus. So while we would get hit with the full two years bonus in 2013, the 2014 could be handled in 2014 if we exceed the cap in 2013.

Welll, thank you mr Commissioner!

TheOak · 11-02-2012, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Welll, thank you mr Commissioner!

Commissioner? Do I have to move this thread to smack talk? That one word just summarizes to many derogatory thoughts.

jeanpierre · 11-03-2012, 11:59 PM

So is Hicks is the starter at the Nose Guard?!?

When do we get to see the younger ends take over more playing time??

Nemesis · 11-04-2012, 12:25 AM

I like pie

jeanpierre · 11-04-2012, 08:20 AM

I wonder if there's an anti-bounty on the defensive player that accidentally takes out Vick!!!

We may actually get some turnovers this week...

jeanpierre · 11-04-2012, 09:53 PM

Have the announced which players are on the inactive list for the MNF Game?

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Lack of Talent on Defensive Line	24	39.34%
Lack of Talent at Cornerback	5	8.20%
Lack of Talent at Safety	3	4.92%
Scheme, still need time to learn	16	26.23%
Commitment to 1st Rounders, FA Contracts, Need Young Guns to Play	3	4.92%
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11-02-2012, 08:19 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Harpers cap hit IF he is still with us is 7.1mm If he is cut before the start of next season his cap hit due to signing bonus is only 1.75mm Cutting him gives you 5.6mm to play with... Obviously structuring is what decides who/what talent you can bring in.

11-02-2012, 08:25 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? I am not looking to cut anyone just wondering where those numbers came form. We only get hit with 1.75/ year. I have seen the Roto... The 1mm and 1.5mm are workout bonuses. If he is cut.. there is no work out bonus, work out bonuses are not part of the guaranteed. So we have to tow 1.75mm a year for 2013/2014 Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

11-02-2012, 08:55 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Originally Posted by x626xBlack I am not looking to cut anyone just wondering where those numbers came form. We only get hit with 1.75/ year. I have seen the Roto... The 1mm and 1.5mm are workout bonuses. If he is cut.. there is no work out bonus, work out bonuses are not part of the guaranteed. So we have to tow 1.75mm a year for 2013/2014 Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions Both years would accelerate to 2013. You can't keep them spread out.

11-02-2012, 10:02 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Originally Posted by Danno Both years would accelerate to 2013. You can't keep them spread out. Correct but if the team goes over the salary cap because of the subsequent amortized years of the signing bonus, the hit is realized the following year... Deferred guaranteed bonus. So while we would get hit with the full two years bonus in 2013, the 2014 could be handled in 2014 if we exceed the cap in 2013.

11-02-2012, 10:48 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Originally Posted by x626xBlack Correct but if the team goes over the salary cap because of the subsequent amortized years of the signing bonus, the hit is realized the following year... Deferred guaranteed bonus. So while we would get hit with the full two years bonus in 2013, the 2014 could be handled in 2014 if we exceed the cap in 2013. Welll, thank you mr Commissioner! TheOak likes this.

11-02-2012, 01:23 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Originally Posted by Danno Welll, thank you mr Commissioner! Commissioner? Do I have to move this thread to smack talk? That one word just summarizes to many derogatory thoughts.

11-03-2012, 11:59 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? So is Hicks is the starter at the Nose Guard?!? When do we get to see the younger ends take over more playing time??

11-04-2012, 12:25 AM	#8
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? I like pie

11-04-2012, 08:20 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? I wonder if there's an anti-bounty on the defensive player that accidentally takes out Vick!!! We may actually get some turnovers this week...

11-04-2012, 09:53 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad? Have the announced which players are on the inactive list for the MNF Game?

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