Is our window closed?

TheOak · 10-30-2012, 08:16 AM

Its not closed... But it has one of those aggravating screens with no tabs, no flex and a few screws holding it in place...

SaintsBro · 10-30-2012, 11:01 AM

I think the Dude has a good point here though. He's onto something. What we REALLY need to do, is start telling Drew that WE think the window is closed. Once people start telling him that, once the media start saying he will never get there, then he will go out there like a maniac and win three in a row for us.

Now I get it, awesome thread -- I like the way The Dude is thinking, here....crazy like a fox....

TheOak · 10-30-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I think the Dude has a good point here though. He's onto something. What we REALLY need to do, is start telling Drew that WE think the window is closed. Once people start telling him that, once the media start saying he will never get there, then he will go out there like a maniac and win three in a row for us.

Now I get it, awesome thread -- I like the way The Dude is thinking, here....crazy like a fox....

As soon as you link Drew to our defensive performance... I would buy it.... but then again I think I would have more questions.

jeanpierre · 10-30-2012, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No doubt we hit on more offensive players, but we've certainly tried to address the defense with coaches, draft picks and free-agents.

No question the effort has been there; it's now at the point of incompetence...

One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense...

FinSaint · 10-30-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

All of that was spread out over 6 years, Lofton was brought in to replace Vilma... Its like duct tape patching a tire with a hole in it... We need to take one year and completely clean house, instead of replacing 4 people we keep 4 people and replace the rest....

And how exactly are you going to "clean house" when only Ellis', Casillas', McBride's and Shanle's contracts are up at the end of this season?!

In the current salary cap era, you can't just "blow up" a team when players have 2-3 years left on their expensive contracts, like Will Smith for example. You'd still end up paying those cut players a ton of money because their contracts guarantee them that money, and while you'd have a lot more free roster spots - you'd find it hard to find the money to fill those spots with actual quality players.

This is the reality that I've been struggling with when trying to think of a way the Saints could really improve their defensive personnel for next year.

FinSaint · 10-30-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense...

True, I hit on Hicks a month before that draft, so maybe they should give me a shot come next draft?!

Rugby Saint II · 10-30-2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

No question the effort has been there; it's now at the point of incompetence...

One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense...

Maybe you're onto smething there.

RaginCajun83 · 10-30-2012, 04:45 PM

As long as Drew is the QB, the window is far from closed

st thomas · 10-30-2012, 05:00 PM

find the guy that found the front 4 for the giants, now thats talent. payton is drafting quality smart players? and our quality smart atheletes can't catch on to our new coordinaters scheme. throw out somebody.
OUR SEASONS NOT OVER= WE GOT SHOT TILL ITS OVER.

AlaskaSaints · 10-30-2012, 08:47 PM

No, but we're bangin' it with a rubber mallet and it's hitting us in the head on the back bounce!

LOL

Alaska

10-30-2012, 08:16 AM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Is our window closed? Its not closed... But it has one of those aggravating screens with no tabs, no flex and a few screws holding it in place...

10-30-2012, 11:01 AM	#22
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is our window closed? I think the Dude has a good point here though. He's onto something. What we REALLY need to do, is start telling Drew that WE think the window is closed. Once people start telling him that, once the media start saying he will never get there, then he will go out there like a maniac and win three in a row for us. Now I get it, awesome thread -- I like the way The Dude is thinking, here....crazy like a fox.... Halo likes this.

10-30-2012, 11:42 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Is our window closed? Originally Posted by SaintsBro I think the Dude has a good point here though. He's onto something. What we REALLY need to do, is start telling Drew that WE think the window is closed. Once people start telling him that, once the media start saying he will never get there, then he will go out there like a maniac and win three in a row for us. Now I get it, awesome thread -- I like the way The Dude is thinking, here....crazy like a fox.... As soon as you link Drew to our defensive performance... I would buy it.... but then again I think I would have more questions.

10-30-2012, 12:10 PM	#24
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Is our window closed? Originally Posted by Danno No doubt we hit on more offensive players, but we've certainly tried to address the defense with coaches, draft picks and free-agents. No question the effort has been there; it's now at the point of incompetence... One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense... Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-30-2012, 12:31 PM	#25
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Is our window closed? Originally Posted by x626xBlack All of that was spread out over 6 years, Lofton was brought in to replace Vilma... Its like duct tape patching a tire with a hole in it... We need to take one year and completely clean house, instead of replacing 4 people we keep 4 people and replace the rest.... And how exactly are you going to "clean house" when only Ellis', Casillas', McBride's and Shanle's contracts are up at the end of this season?! In the current salary cap era, you can't just "blow up" a team when players have 2-3 years left on their expensive contracts, like Will Smith for example. You'd still end up paying those cut players a ton of money because their contracts guarantee them that money, and while you'd have a lot more free roster spots - you'd find it hard to find the money to fill those spots with actual quality players. This is the reality that I've been struggling with when trying to think of a way the Saints could really improve their defensive personnel for next year.
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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Is our window closed? Originally Posted by jeanpierre One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense... True, I hit on Hicks a month before that draft, so maybe they should give me a shot come next draft?!

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Is our window closed? Originally Posted by jeanpierre No question the effort has been there; it's now at the point of incompetence... One ProBowl in all those draft picks - you could have a better draft from the consensus of this website than what's been done on defense... Maybe you're onto smething there.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Is our window closed? find the guy that found the front 4 for the giants, now thats talent. payton is drafting quality smart players? and our quality smart atheletes can't catch on to our new coordinaters scheme. throw out somebody. OUR SEASONS NOT OVER= WE GOT SHOT TILL ITS OVER.

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