Ivory for a 7th rounder?

CharityMike · 10-30-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Unfortunately right now I think our offense is like a big chest or trunk full of kids' toys at this point. They're all jumbled up in there and Carmichael is trying to fish them out one at a time, and figure out what to do with them. BUT I want Payton to be the one to come back and unpack them and sort them out and arrange them when he gets back. I mean if you have ever seen a little kid, can you imagine if they got rid of one of his toys, while he was away, even one he never uses or doesn't like? It'd be murder.

Which is exactly why Ingram is not going anywhere. Im with Fin, I'd rather move Ingram and get a good pick.

saintfan · 10-30-2012, 06:56 PM

Ivory for a 7th? Why not?

Hell, I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help...

AlaskaSaints · 10-30-2012, 07:45 PM

Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska

FinSaint · 10-30-2012, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska

Colston does make the occasional fumble, but I think that side of his game has been overly emphasized and flat out over-exaggerated.

Marquis Colston

2006: 115 catches, 0 fumbles
2007: 144 catches, 1 fumble
2008: 88 catches, 1 fumble
2009: 107 catches, 2 fumbles
2010: 132 catches, 0 fumbles
2011: 107 catches, 1 fumble
2012: 70 catches, 1 fumble [week 8]

So, that is an average of a fumble per 127 catches. I can certainly live with that percentage, and based on that alone I find it hard to support the statement that he has a problem with fumbles.

saintsfan1976 · 10-30-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska

"Lifetime"? You mean the two partial seasons he's played in, right?

The difference between Ivory and the ones you named is that the others actually produce - CONSISTENLY

BIGEASY504 · 10-31-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska

I would not trade Ivory, Ingram didn't shine prior to Bounty Gate so why trade Ivory. with his YPC what's the reason? PT moved out Pittman why can't Ingram be done the same?

FinSaint · 10-31-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504

I would not trade Ivory, Ingram didn't shine prior to Bounty Gate so why trade Ivory. with his YPC what's the reason? PT moved out Pittman why can't Ingram be done the same?

I guess the idea behind that move would be the fact that his contract is up at the end of this season, and so if they don't think they can re-sign him - why wouldn't they trade him in order to get something in return?!

Danno · 10-31-2012, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I guess the idea behind that move would be the fact that his contract is up at the end of this season, and so if they don't think they can re-sign him - why wouldn't they trade him in order to get something in return?!

I think he's a RFA so we can slap a late round tender on him and keep him cheap or get a pick.

I forget what the tender levels are now.

FinSaint · 10-31-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think he's a RFA so we can slap a late round tender on him and keep him cheap or get a pick.

I forget what the tender levels are now.

Yeah, you're right. I thought that he was an UFA, but after your comment I checked it again, and he is indeed a RFA, so he could be had on the cheap once again.

AlaskaSaints · 10-30-2012, 10:38 PM

The backup running back averages 5.0 and he can't get in the game. You don't find that ridiculous?

Do you think I don't know how many seasons Ivory has been with the Saints or that he has been injured in both seasons? REALLY?

So with the same sarcastic, caustic demeanor that you guys address Ivory I'll say that if P.T. weren't so fragile we may have won in San Francisco and may have gone to the Super Bowl. LOL And he coughed up the ball when the lights went out as well. That covers both points that you bring about Ivory... IN ONE PLAY. LOL

I love P.T. and his contribution, regardless of whether he's having a good day, and I would NOT trade P.T. for Ivory under any circumstance.

I'm not rooting for Ivory to take over the backfield, just get the man in the game. He deserves that for what he has done for us in the last TWO years that he has been with the Saints... injured.

Alaska

10-30-2012, 07:27 PM	#1
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by SaintsBro Unfortunately right now I think our offense is like a big chest or trunk full of kids' toys at this point. They're all jumbled up in there and Carmichael is trying to fish them out one at a time, and figure out what to do with them. BUT I want Payton to be the one to come back and unpack them and sort them out and arrange them when he gets back. I mean if you have ever seen a little kid, can you imagine if they got rid of one of his toys, while he was away, even one he never uses or doesn't like? It'd be murder. Which is exactly why Ingram is not going anywhere. Im with Fin, I'd rather move Ingram and get a good pick.

10-30-2012, 06:56 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Ivory for a 7th? Why not? Hell, I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would help... Halo, SapperSaint, saintsfan1976 and 1 others like this.

10-30-2012, 07:45 PM	#3
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries? Colston fumbles. Moore is constantly injured. Graham is constantly injured. P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured. Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory. Alaska lynwood and Rell&Gold like this.

10-30-2012, 08:37 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries? Colston fumbles. Moore is constantly injured. Graham is constantly injured. P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured. Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory. Alaska Colston does make the occasional fumble, but I think that side of his game has been overly emphasized and flat out over-exaggerated. Marquis Colston 2006: 115 catches, 0 fumbles 2007: 144 catches, 1 fumble 2008: 88 catches, 1 fumble 2009: 107 catches, 2 fumbles 2010: 132 catches, 0 fumbles 2011: 107 catches, 1 fumble 2012: 70 catches, 1 fumble [week 8] So, that is an average of a fumble per 127 catches. I can certainly live with that percentage, and based on that alone I find it hard to support the statement that he has a problem with fumbles.

10-30-2012, 09:16 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries? Colston fumbles. Moore is constantly injured. Graham is constantly injured. P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured. Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory. Alaska "Lifetime"? You mean the two partial seasons he's played in, right? The difference between Ivory and the ones you named is that the others actually produce - CONSISTENLY

10-31-2012, 01:36 PM	#6
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries? Colston fumbles. Moore is constantly injured. Graham is constantly injured. P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured. Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory. Alaska I would not trade Ivory, Ingram didn't shine prior to Bounty Gate so why trade Ivory. with his YPC what's the reason? PT moved out Pittman why can't Ingram be done the same? AlaskaSaints likes this.
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10-31-2012, 02:58 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 I would not trade Ivory, Ingram didn't shine prior to Bounty Gate so why trade Ivory. with his YPC what's the reason? PT moved out Pittman why can't Ingram be done the same? I guess the idea behind that move would be the fact that his contract is up at the end of this season, and so if they don't think they can re-sign him - why wouldn't they trade him in order to get something in return?!

10-31-2012, 03:45 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by FinSaint I guess the idea behind that move would be the fact that his contract is up at the end of this season, and so if they don't think they can re-sign him - why wouldn't they trade him in order to get something in return?! I think he's a RFA so we can slap a late round tender on him and keep him cheap or get a pick. I forget what the tender levels are now.

10-31-2012, 04:31 PM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? Originally Posted by Danno I think he's a RFA so we can slap a late round tender on him and keep him cheap or get a pick. I forget what the tender levels are now. Yeah, you're right. I thought that he was an UFA, but after your comment I checked it again, and he is indeed a RFA, so he could be had on the cheap once again.

10-30-2012, 10:38 PM	#10
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder? The backup running back averages 5.0 and he can't get in the game. You don't find that ridiculous? Do you think I don't know how many seasons Ivory has been with the Saints or that he has been injured in both seasons? REALLY? So with the same sarcastic, caustic demeanor that you guys address Ivory I'll say that if P.T. weren't so fragile we may have won in San Francisco and may have gone to the Super Bowl. LOL And he coughed up the ball when the lights went out as well. That covers both points that you bring about Ivory... IN ONE PLAY. LOL I love P.T. and his contribution, regardless of whether he's having a good day, and I would NOT trade P.T. for Ivory under any circumstance. I'm not rooting for Ivory to take over the backfield, just get the man in the game. He deserves that for what he has done for us in the last TWO years that he has been with the Saints... injured. Alaska

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