Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season?

saintfan · 10-31-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

nobody's worth 100 million bucks.
not in this universe.

I'm worth a hundred million...

...

...but I'm not from here...

Speedy Ron · 10-31-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

nobody's worth 100 million bucks.
not in this universe.

I see your point. If he has 60 mil guaranteed why couldnt he just make a 60 mil contract all guaranteed. im sure theres waaay more to it but your right 100 mill is ALOT of money

Rugby Saint II · 10-31-2012, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

preseason doesn't tell you a whole lot, and years of tape in a different scheme doesn't tell you how they will preform in yours. Look at me post above this one... Who is going to give that $ for Smith or Ellis? No one... We are stuck with them until theur contracts are up. If you just cut them you still take the hit on the cap.

Cut them both and the other over paid under achievers. Get them off the roster. First try to trade them for whatever you can get. If you can't get anything then cut them.
That will allow us to bring in several mid price FA's and hopefully some of them step up. But we need at least one to two impact players on defense through free agency.
The way things look now we will pick fairly high in the draft. I understand trading back and getting several more picks. But that doesn't get us any impact players early in the draft. If need be I'd move up to get that DT that we need to pair with Hicks.
As good as we find gems we need to really focus on defense 100% and bring in a couple of impact players through the draft.
Smith and Ellis need to be gone. That will open up those roster spots for competition and let the young guns fight it out in training camp.

neugey · 10-31-2012, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

nobody's worth 100 million bucks.
not in this universe.

Zooey might be

Beastmode · 11-01-2012, 12:35 AM

I put little faith in the draft. Look at Dorsey, he looked unstoppable. Now he's at DE and still doing next to nothing. Same goes for a lot of 1st round defensive picks. Injuries, system, chemistry...a lot more factors involved.I'm more concerned with scouting. We need better scouts.

AlaskaSaints · 11-01-2012, 01:36 AM

We were hoping for Jello and got room-temperature butter.

There could be a lot of emotional attachment saved if we just pulled a Colts move and go for the picks.

I'm down with it as long as it's the plan. I'm not down with playing like shat and dragging the fans along for the ride.

After being punished as harshly and with malice, I think a little turnabout non-competetiveness is appropriate.

Alaska

AlaskaSaints · 11-01-2012, 01:43 AM

Respectfully;

If Manning and Roethlisburger can pull it off TWICE, then QB is not the most important position.

Must have the remainder of a team to get it done. We're experiencing that.

Alaska

10-31-2012, 04:42 PM	#21
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by skymike nobody's worth 100 million bucks. not in this universe. I'm worth a hundred million... ... ...but I'm not from here...

10-31-2012, 04:55 PM	#22
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by skymike nobody's worth 100 million bucks. not in this universe. I see your point. If he has 60 mil guaranteed why couldnt he just make a 60 mil contract all guaranteed. im sure theres waaay more to it but your right 100 mill is ALOT of money

10-31-2012, 06:36 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by x626xBlack preseason doesn't tell you a whole lot, and years of tape in a different scheme doesn't tell you how they will preform in yours. Look at me post above this one... Who is going to give that $ for Smith or Ellis? No one... We are stuck with them until theur contracts are up. If you just cut them you still take the hit on the cap. Cut them both and the other over paid under achievers. Get them off the roster. First try to trade them for whatever you can get. If you can't get anything then cut them. That will allow us to bring in several mid price FA's and hopefully some of them step up. But we need at least one to two impact players on defense through free agency. The way things look now we will pick fairly high in the draft. I understand trading back and getting several more picks. But that doesn't get us any impact players early in the draft. If need be I'd move up to get that DT that we need to pair with Hicks. As good as we find gems we need to really focus on defense 100% and bring in a couple of impact players through the draft. Smith and Ellis need to be gone. That will open up those roster spots for competition and let the young guns fight it out in training camp.
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10-31-2012, 07:08 PM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by skymike nobody's worth 100 million bucks. not in this universe. Zooey might be

11-01-2012, 12:35 AM	#25
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? I put little faith in the draft. Look at Dorsey, he looked unstoppable. Now he's at DE and still doing next to nothing. Same goes for a lot of 1st round defensive picks. Injuries, system, chemistry...a lot more factors involved.I'm more concerned with scouting. We need better scouts.
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11-01-2012, 01:36 AM	#26
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? We were hoping for Jello and got room-temperature butter. There could be a lot of emotional attachment saved if we just pulled a Colts move and go for the picks. I'm down with it as long as it's the plan. I'm not down with playing like shat and dragging the fans along for the ride. After being punished as harshly and with malice, I think a little turnabout non-competetiveness is appropriate. Alaska

11-01-2012, 01:43 AM	#27
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Respectfully; If Manning and Roethlisburger can pull it off TWICE, then QB is not the most important position. Must have the remainder of a team to get it done. We're experiencing that. Alaska

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