Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season?

Crusader · 10-31-2012, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan

Spags had all pre season, All the game Tape of previous seasons. Did he think Bunkley and 3 new Linebackers would make a big impact? He had to know we had no pass Rush. Why no trade in Pre Season ?

We can only thank Brees for that. If he hadn't been a little ***** about his contract all offseason Loomis and the boys would have known how much money they could spend on defence. The really were no room for any trades.

The basic talent level is too low or guys who was good are getting to old. Smith used to be great now he seems to have lost a step. Ellis is a never was but there is only so many things you can change in one offseason.

TheOak · 10-31-2012, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

We can only thank Brees for that. If he hadn't been a little ***** about his contract all offseason Loomis and the boys would have known how much money they could spend on defence. The really were no room for any trades.

The basic talent level is too low or guys who was good are getting to old. Smith used to be great now he seems to have lost a step. Ellis is a never was but there is only so many things you can change in one offseason.

Not exactly so... The front office knew what Drew wanted, they knew what they could do with the salary cap by structuring Drew's contract. Its basic business management and financial forecasting. It probably wasn't not dead on accurate down to the 0.01 but they had a damned good idea.

Drews contract had nothing to do with Ellis and Smith.. The front office knew Ellis would cost them 7.3MM in 2012 and Smith would cost them 5.3mm in 2012.. They knew what they had to play with...

As far as Drew getting 100mm.. Which he is worth the bigger problem is Smith was given a 61mm contract and Ellis was given 33mm.

Drews 100mm is by far a better investment than 94mm for Ellis/Smith.

Speedy Ron · 10-31-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Not exactly so... The front office knew what Drew wanted, they knew what they could do with the salary cap by structuring Drew's contract. Its basic business management and financial forecasting. It probably wasn't not dead on accurate down to the 0.01 but they had a damned good idea.

Drews contract had nothing to do with Ellis and Smith.. The front office knew Ellis would cost them 7.3MM in 2012 and Smith would cost them 5.3mm in 2012.. They knew what they had to play with...

As far as Drew getting 100mm.. Which he is worth the bigger problem is Smith was given a 61mm contract and Ellis was given 33mm.

Drews 100mm is by far a better investment than 94mm for Ellis/Smith.

Ellis is such a waste of money

CharityMike · 10-31-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

Ellis is such a waste of money

Thank god his contract is done after this year. Hope he enjoyed all that cheddar cause he is not going to see another contract like that again!

The real question is, can we find a way to get out of Smiths contract? The only thing I could guess is to get him to restructure again and then cut him a year later. Of course that means he is going to be here another year but I don't know how else we could get out of it.

10-31-2012, 01:42 AM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by 70saintsfan Spags had all pre season, All the game Tape of previous seasons. Did he think Bunkley and 3 new Linebackers would make a big impact? He had to know we had no pass Rush. Why no trade in Pre Season ? We can only thank Brees for that. If he hadn't been a little ***** about his contract all offseason Loomis and the boys would have known how much money they could spend on defence. The really were no room for any trades. The basic talent level is too low or guys who was good are getting to old. Smith used to be great now he seems to have lost a step. Ellis is a never was but there is only so many things you can change in one offseason.

10-31-2012, 06:14 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by Crusader We can only thank Brees for that. If he hadn't been a little ***** about his contract all offseason Loomis and the boys would have known how much money they could spend on defence. The really were no room for any trades. The basic talent level is too low or guys who was good are getting to old. Smith used to be great now he seems to have lost a step. Ellis is a never was but there is only so many things you can change in one offseason. Not exactly so... The front office knew what Drew wanted, they knew what they could do with the salary cap by structuring Drew's contract. Its basic business management and financial forecasting. It probably wasn't not dead on accurate down to the 0.01 but they had a damned good idea. Drews contract had nothing to do with Ellis and Smith.. The front office knew Ellis would cost them 7.3MM in 2012 and Smith would cost them 5.3mm in 2012.. They knew what they had to play with... As far as Drew getting 100mm.. Which he is worth the bigger problem is Smith was given a 61mm contract and Ellis was given 33mm. Drews 100mm is by far a better investment than 94mm for Ellis/Smith.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

10-31-2012, 03:07 PM	#3
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by x626xBlack Not exactly so... The front office knew what Drew wanted, they knew what they could do with the salary cap by structuring Drew's contract. Its basic business management and financial forecasting. It probably wasn't not dead on accurate down to the 0.01 but they had a damned good idea. Drews contract had nothing to do with Ellis and Smith.. The front office knew Ellis would cost them 7.3MM in 2012 and Smith would cost them 5.3mm in 2012.. They knew what they had to play with... As far as Drew getting 100mm.. Which he is worth the bigger problem is Smith was given a 61mm contract and Ellis was given 33mm. Drews 100mm is by far a better investment than 94mm for Ellis/Smith. Ellis is such a waste of money

10-31-2012, 03:42 PM	#4
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Why didn't Spags see this in Pre-Season? Originally Posted by Speedy Ron Ellis is such a waste of money Thank god his contract is done after this year. Hope he enjoyed all that cheddar cause he is not going to see another contract like that again! The real question is, can we find a way to get out of Smiths contract? The only thing I could guess is to get him to restructure again and then cut him a year later. Of course that means he is going to be here another year but I don't know how else we could get out of it.

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