TheOak

My thoughts were more along the lines of bringing in Spags players 2-3, before GW left.

Rugby Saint II

Just yankin' your chain...............

FinSaint

True, but they didn't even know Spags would be available a year ago.

TheOak

Sounds like pisspoor planning to me LOL.

ARMY bastard/creedo - Practice your 6 P's (Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance)

Kryptonite

I am not here trying to change your minds on how the defense does not suck, because it does "suck" beyond description.

One thing I do agree with in the above is that the offense isn't what it used to be. I've stated it before and will continue to state it, the defense is giving up "unanswered" points. No, we cannot expect the offense to score 35pts a game, but at some point the offense has to keep the opposing defense on the field long enough to give that terrible defense a breather. Too often the defense makes a couple of great stops and they are back on the field before they get to take their helmets off.

Again, not trying to minimize the level of the D's suckiness, but at the same time since the O knows how bad they are they need to make a conscious effort towards lending them a hand with better play-calling and execution. It disheartening to hear weekly how bad you are when the other side of the ball aint that great either, but you rarely hear about them.

I'm saying though!

SaintsBro

Yup. The 3 and out's are killing us. Just brutal.

Coach Kromer said something, a while ago, that made me realize...basically the nature of this Saints offense is that, historically the last few years, it's either:

3 and out, or THEY GET POINTS.

There's practically no middle ground, or in between.

And if you go back and look at box scores and drive charts and play-by-play type stuff, (throw out the sucky game at Denver, because it reeeeally sucked) it actually IS kind of true about this offense. As sort of a general thumbnail rule type thing -- a lot of the time, especially compared to other NFL teams -- this offense tends to either sputter immediately in three or four downs and punt, or else they GO ALL THE WAY like some unstoppable juggernaut of points, the greatest offense of all time. Feast or famine.

And incidentally, that's part of why Morstead is so awesome statistically -- he is frequently punting after a 3 and out, in his own end of the field, so he boooooms it -- he hardly ever has to angle or "coffin corner" it, or aim at a specific point (he is very good at all that stuff, too, by the way).

It's getting that FIRST first down, or sometimes the second first down -- the first four plays, that's the problem. Once they get that, it's typically off to the races, and NOBODY can stop them except themselves.

And I feel like it's been getting worse and worse since 2010. For some reason I remember the SF game in 2010, as being the first time I was freaking out over the 3 and out's.

nutria

One thing I do agree with in the above is that the offense isn't what it used to be. I've stated it before and will continue to state it, the defense is giving up "unanswered" points. No, we cannot expect the offense to score 35pts a game, but at some point the offense has to keep the opposing defense on the field long enough to give that terrible defense a breather. Too often the defense makes a couple of great stops and they are back on the field before they get to take their helmets off.

Again, not trying to minimize the level of the D's suckiness, but at the same time since the O knows how bad they are they need to make a conscious effort towards lending them a hand with better play-calling and execution. It disheartening to hear weekly how bad you are when the other side of the ball aint that great either, but you rarely hear about them.

I'm saying though![/QUOTE]

The truth hurts, the offense sucks, but not as bad as the defense which is beyond horrible.

Papa Voodoo

Jenkins is starting to look a lot like Tebucky Jones out there. I like Harper. Lofton is a monster. Our corners cover, but no picks. I'm sure they would all look like superstars if we could get pressure with the D line OR stuff the run with the D line.

dizzle88

I like Harper Aswell, people may get on him alot of the time but I know two things

He defends TE's well and improves every season
People forget how many plays he made for us in GW's D, in terms of forced fumbles, 4th down tackles and sacks etc

People can't really say Harper can't cover when none of our D can and Harper breaks a couple of passes up every week

On another note, our corners are pathetic
Corey white can't play man or zone
I was high on j.patrick when he came in but he got schooled aswel
Greer had a couple bad games

Make akiem hicks the starter

Your bonehead creator picked a fine chapter to omit from your memory bank....let me ask you, does a machine like yourself ever experience fear? - Vegeta, DBZ

darstep

Just down right awful, with a capital F!
Now we see why Greg Williams sent seven all the time.
He actually schemed his talent or lack thereof.
Spags is determined to squeeze these square pegs in the rounds.
The offense has now gotten infected because the defense didn't use protection.
Next year will be just as ugly ( and I really hope I'm wrong ).
That 100 million is just poison. Yea I said it! It's poison!
When we patch it up right, it will start leaking left.
When we cover the left side, the bottom will start rusting out.
We don't have pass rusher(s), we will need more than one...
We have no speed or quickness on the defensive side of the ball.
The alternative to having CASH, is giving up a contributor, and that will change the whole dynamic.
Brees now thinks he has to press the issue - definitely not a cure for our ills.
With Sean Payton out, there is no REAL authority figure in the house.
And Brees is telling his bosses what they are going to do, and how things are going to be.
No commitment to the running game is going to keep Brees too far out on that limb,
And our defense on the field way too long, and then back on the field way too soon.
I'm prepared for a long rough road ahead and I'll be right here.
My Saints scar tissue has fewer nerve ending anyway.

**SaintSince67**