Kryptonite

I am not here trying to change your minds on how the defense does not suck, because it does "suck" beyond description.

One thing I do agree with in the above is that the offense isn't what it used to be. I've stated it before and will continue to state it, the defense is giving up "unanswered" points. No, we cannot expect the offense to score 35pts a game, but at some point the offense has to keep the opposing defense on the field long enough to give that terrible defense a breather. Too often the defense makes a couple of great stops and they are back on the field before they get to take their helmets off.

Again, not trying to minimize the level of the D's suckiness, but at the same time since the O knows how bad they are they need to make a conscious effort towards lending them a hand with better play-calling and execution. It disheartening to hear weekly how bad you are when the other side of the ball aint that great either, but you rarely hear about them.

I'm saying though!

SaintsBro

Yup. The 3 and out's are killing us. Just brutal.

Coach Kromer said something, a while ago, that made me realize...basically the nature of this Saints offense is that, historically the last few years, it's either:

3 and out, or THEY GET POINTS.

There's practically no middle ground, or in between.

And if you go back and look at box scores and drive charts and play-by-play type stuff, (throw out the sucky game at Denver, because it reeeeally sucked) it actually IS kind of true about this offense. As sort of a general thumbnail rule type thing -- a lot of the time, especially compared to other NFL teams -- this offense tends to either sputter immediately in three or four downs and punt, or else they GO ALL THE WAY like some unstoppable juggernaut of points, the greatest offense of all time. Feast or famine.

And incidentally, that's part of why Morstead is so awesome statistically -- he is frequently punting after a 3 and out, in his own end of the field, so he boooooms it -- he hardly ever has to angle or "coffin corner" it, or aim at a specific point (he is very good at all that stuff, too, by the way).

It's getting that FIRST first down, or sometimes the second first down -- the first four plays, that's the problem. Once they get that, it's typically off to the races, and NOBODY can stop them except themselves.

And I feel like it's been getting worse and worse since 2010. For some reason I remember the SF game in 2010, as being the first time I was freaking out over the 3 and out's.

nutria

One thing I do agree with in the above is that the offense isn't what it used to be. I've stated it before and will continue to state it, the defense is giving up "unanswered" points. No, we cannot expect the offense to score 35pts a game, but at some point the offense has to keep the opposing defense on the field long enough to give that terrible defense a breather. Too often the defense makes a couple of great stops and they are back on the field before they get to take their helmets off.

Again, not trying to minimize the level of the D's suckiness, but at the same time since the O knows how bad they are they need to make a conscious effort towards lending them a hand with better play-calling and execution. It disheartening to hear weekly how bad you are when the other side of the ball aint that great either, but you rarely hear about them.

I'm saying though![/QUOTE]

The truth hurts, the offense sucks, but not as bad as the defense which is beyond horrible.