Running game vs 49ers

Vrillon82 · 11-22-2012, 01:15 PM

I think its important to have hard bruisers like Ivory and PT pound that front defensive line.

This is where it begins to open up both Pass and Run.

I believe the tone is going to be set on the Saints 1st play, the Saints first play should be Pass.

Coin Flips is basically what both sides use, offense may think Run, defense of 49ers may think pass, its winning those flips that win the game.

pherein · 11-23-2012, 01:36 PM

Im not sure the tone will be set on the 1st play. Our offense can score 0 points in a quarter or half, and then 28 pts in a quarter.
We just have to wait until they get into rhythm, and then see were we stand.

mikesaintfan · 11-23-2012, 01:42 PM

let ivory run at aldon smith til he is no longer a pass rush threat,,,beat him down

SanDiego49er · 11-23-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

let ivory run at aldon smith til he is no longer a pass rush threat,,,beat him down

Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that.

pherein · 11-23-2012, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that.

Everyone gets tired. aldon smith is being misjudged as a elite DL, he hasn't earned that yet. He has the most sacks, on very bad OL's, not good ones.
But our DL actually has more sacks than SF, on better teams, and SF pass defense on OL is ranked #31?
Saints have had a top #5 since 2006, not a top #5 DL just this year. Giants have a better DL than SF, and they only get maybe 1 sack on us.

SanDiego49er · 11-23-2012, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Everyone gets tired. aldon smith is being misjudged as a elite DL, he hasn't earned that yet. He has the most sacks, on very bad OL's, not good ones.
But our DL actually has more sacks than SF, on better teams, and SF pass defense on OL is ranked #31?
Saints have had a top #5 since 2006, not a top #5 DL just this year.

1) He's an OLB pass rusher in a 3 - 4 system. Not a D Linemen.

2) LOL at him not being elite. He has 15 sacks with 6 games to go. He leads the NFL. He may approach the record. That's pretty damn good. It's highly likely he will break the record for the most sacks in the first 2 years in the NFL. I believe he is 2 away from that now. Very likely he reaches it. All time in first 2 years.

3) He gets plenty of sacks against excellent teams and excellent lines. He's not blockable against anybody. He's just a tremendous player and pass rusher against any team. He's a great athlete, powerful, explosive, and has excellent technique too.

pherein · 11-23-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

1) He's an OLB pass rusher in a 3 - 4 system. Not a D Linemen.

2) LOL at him not being elite. He has 15 sacks with 6 games to go. He leads the NFL. He may approach the record. That's pretty damn good. It's highly likely he will break the record for the most sacks in the first 2 years in the NFL. I believe he is 2 away from that now. Very likely he reaches it. All time in first 2 years.

3) He gets plenty of sacks against excellent teams and excellent lines. He's not blockable against anybody. He's just a tremendous player and pass rusher against any team. He's a great athlete, powerful, explosive, and has excellent technique too.

I know his record and position, still stand by what I said. Im just not impressed by him yet sorry.

mikesaintfan · 11-24-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er

Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that.

how do you assure me of that? do you spend alot of time with him while he is engaged in physical activity?(thats kinda wierd but to each his own..dont ask dont tell...right?)...and I'm not talking about tired..im talking about Ivory K.O.ing him

SanDiego49er · 11-23-2012, 07:30 PM

The 49ers are very tough to run on. However as some suggested I think you are better off to stay committed to it than you are to give up on it.

Rugby Saint II · 11-24-2012, 02:06 PM

Smith is good. I'll give you that.......but this is not your fathers Saints. This is a Drew Brees offense.
I still wonder why all these losers come here to troll? You would think that they want to talk to other SF fans.
They must come here for intelligent conversation because they sure can't get it at home.

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Ivory	15	40.54%
Ingram	8	21.62%
PT23	10	27.03%
Sproles (if healthy)	1	2.70%
50-100 yards	9	24.32%
100 - 130 yards	14	37.84%
150+ yards	3	8.11%
Just enough for brees to do his thing!	6	16.22%
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11-22-2012, 01:15 PM	#1
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Running game vs 49ers I think its important to have hard bruisers like Ivory and PT pound that front defensive line. This is where it begins to open up both Pass and Run. I believe the tone is going to be set on the Saints 1st play, the Saints first play should be Pass. Coin Flips is basically what both sides use, offense may think Run, defense of 49ers may think pass, its winning those flips that win the game.
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11-23-2012, 01:36 PM	#2
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Running game vs 49ers Im not sure the tone will be set on the 1st play. Our offense can score 0 points in a quarter or half, and then 28 pts in a quarter. We just have to wait until they get into rhythm, and then see were we stand.

11-23-2012, 07:31 PM	#4
SanDiego49er 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 145	Re: Running game vs 49ers Originally Posted by mikesaintfan let ivory run at aldon smith til he is no longer a pass rush threat,,,beat him down Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that.
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11-23-2012, 08:01 PM	#5
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Running game vs 49ers Originally Posted by SanDiego49er Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that. Everyone gets tired. aldon smith is being misjudged as a elite DL, he hasn't earned that yet. He has the most sacks, on very bad OL's, not good ones. But our DL actually has more sacks than SF, on better teams, and SF pass defense on OL is ranked #31? Saints have had a top #5 since 2006, not a top #5 DL just this year. Giants have a better DL than SF, and they only get maybe 1 sack on us.
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11-23-2012, 01:42 PM	#3
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Running game vs 49ers let ivory run at aldon smith til he is no longer a pass rush threat,,,beat him down AlaskaSaints and Michigan_SF like this.

11-23-2012, 08:14 PM	#6
SanDiego49er 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 145	Re: Running game vs 49ers Originally Posted by pherein Everyone gets tired. aldon smith is being misjudged as a elite DL, he hasn't earned that yet. He has the most sacks, on very bad OL's, not good ones. But our DL actually has more sacks than SF, on better teams, and SF pass defense on OL is ranked #31? Saints have had a top #5 since 2006, not a top #5 DL just this year. 1) He's an OLB pass rusher in a 3 - 4 system. Not a D Linemen. 2) LOL at him not being elite. He has 15 sacks with 6 games to go. He leads the NFL. He may approach the record. That's pretty damn good. It's highly likely he will break the record for the most sacks in the first 2 years in the NFL. I believe he is 2 away from that now. Very likely he reaches it. All time in first 2 years. 3) He gets plenty of sacks against excellent teams and excellent lines. He's not blockable against anybody. He's just a tremendous player and pass rusher against any team. He's a great athlete, powerful, explosive, and has excellent technique too.
SanDiego49er 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 145

11-23-2012, 08:51 PM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Running game vs 49ers Originally Posted by SanDiego49er 1) He's an OLB pass rusher in a 3 - 4 system. Not a D Linemen. 2) LOL at him not being elite. He has 15 sacks with 6 games to go. He leads the NFL. He may approach the record. That's pretty damn good. It's highly likely he will break the record for the most sacks in the first 2 years in the NFL. I believe he is 2 away from that now. Very likely he reaches it. All time in first 2 years. 3) He gets plenty of sacks against excellent teams and excellent lines. He's not blockable against anybody. He's just a tremendous player and pass rusher against any team. He's a great athlete, powerful, explosive, and has excellent technique too. I know his record and position, still stand by what I said. Im just not impressed by him yet sorry.

11-24-2012, 07:29 AM	#8
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Running game vs 49ers Originally Posted by SanDiego49er Aldon is a good run stopper too. And he doesn't get very tired. I can assure you of that. how do you assure me of that? do you spend alot of time with him while he is engaged in physical activity?(thats kinda wierd but to each his own..dont ask dont tell...right?)...and I'm not talking about tired..im talking about Ivory K.O.ing him

11-23-2012, 07:30 PM	#9
SanDiego49er 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 145	Re: Running game vs 49ers The 49ers are very tough to run on. However as some suggested I think you are better off to stay committed to it than you are to give up on it. pherein likes this.
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11-24-2012, 02:06 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Running game vs 49ers Smith is good. I'll give you that.......but this is not your fathers Saints. This is a Drew Brees offense. I still wonder why all these losers come here to troll? You would think that they want to talk to other SF fans. They must come here for intelligent conversation because they sure can't get it at home. pherein likes this.

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