Cut bait on Cie

frankeefrank · 08-19-2004, 01:20 PM

When do we cut bait on the Cie Grant experiment. The guy simply can't stay on the field. I don't care how fast he is, his knees are shot. He's taking up a roster spot in my opinion.

Potential can take you only so far

[Edited on 19/8/2004 by frankeefrank]

GumboBC · 08-19-2004, 01:29 PM

I\'m a big Cie Grant fan and I was looking foward to seeing what the guy could do. So naturally I\'m diappointed with the injury !!

I haven\'t read anything that\'s \'credible\' that says his knees are \'shot\'. Where did you hear this? I have read where Haslett is concerned whether or not he will play this year. But, you never know about those kind of statements. He might be tying to send a message to Cie. He might think Cie should be coming back quicker from the injury than what he is. Just speculation. But, you never know...

As far as when to cut bait.... I leave that up to the medical staff and the coaches. They have much more to go on than I do.

It is troubling that he\'s been injured and really hasn\'t been able to get on the filed. Not a good sign.

[Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC]

BlackandBlue · 08-19-2004, 02:06 PM

Don\'t think I\'d cut loose a guy we just drafted in the third round last year, even before his 2nd season started. Imagine where we\'d be if we did that to all our draft picks.

JOESAM2002 · 08-19-2004, 02:25 PM

I read somewhere it was inflammation of the patella tendon. Having had 4 knee operations myself, if that\'s the case, it\'s much to early to cut him. This guy has an enormous amount of potential, I wouldn\'t want to see him picked up by someone with a little patience. Would you cut Stallworth?

saintfan · 08-19-2004, 02:34 PM

Would you cut Stallworth?

No. But there are many who post here that would have. I wonder how many of \'em will admit it?

GumboBC · 08-19-2004, 02:54 PM

Would you cut Stallworth?

No. But there are many who post here that would have. I wonder how many of \'em will admit it?

saintfan --

There\'s a lack of patience by fans today. I blame it on video games. They just plug in players for \"instant\" success and \"cut\" the players they don\'t want. Works well in video games, I hear.

Then of course, you have fantasy football. I\'m scared of video football and fantasy football. Might brainwash me too. :P

Put down the video games and get a job!!!!!!!

[Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC]

[Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC]

BlackandBlue · 08-19-2004, 04:42 PM

Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

GumboBC · 08-19-2004, 05:16 PM

Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

Nah, I don\'t believe that **** !!! I prefer to blame the parents and maybe some overmedication being precribed by some doctor.

I actually grew up living in the arcades. I was the \"king.\" I played ESPN NFL 2K5 the other day. It\'s unbeleiveable how realsitc that game is. You\'ve got half time reports by Chris Berman, that are very accurate. Unbelievable stuff !!

I hardly ever play those games. But, they are fun !! Just joking around.

CheramieIII · 08-19-2004, 08:48 PM

I really believe that Cie won\'t be the starter and the way it look\'s maybe not even number two, unless he can\'t get back into practice really soon. I know the guy is talented, but four surgeries and he is still experiencing problems, it makes you wonder what decision is the right one.

frankeefrank · 08-19-2004, 09:06 PM

All I am saying is, in 2000 the average career of an nfl player was 3.2 years.

http://www.newhouse.com/archive/story1b102700.html

Cie had a minor knee issue in College... And now two in the Nfl in just two seasons. When I said \"his knees were shot\" I was referring to my memory of a story published by the Picayune last season, which discussed a condition in Cie\'s knee that wasn\'t debilitating... but caused pain. Pain that wouldn\'t go away with treatment, Cie would just have to play through it.
Since I can\'t find that article, I understand you will all have different opinions on Cie\'s knees.
All I am asking is, how many games will he sit out this year before you realize he can\'t make it physically?
He only played in 7 games last season... I can\'t remember him making an impact in any of them.
Then again 3 tackles is probably why.
All I read on this site is how weak our LB corps is... Yet, this guy skates.
I don\'t get it.

Oh yeah and,, If Donte had only three catches his first season.... Yes I\'d say he was a bust too.

Plus, Couldn\'t you leave everything up to the medical staff and coaches Billy?

08-19-2004, 01:20 PM	#1
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Cut bait on Cie When do we cut bait on the Cie Grant experiment. The guy simply can't stay on the field. I don't care how fast he is, his knees are shot. He's taking up a roster spot in my opinion. Potential can take you only so far [Edited on 19/8/2004 by frankeefrank]
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08-19-2004, 01:29 PM	#2
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Cut bait on Cie I\'m a big Cie Grant fan and I was looking foward to seeing what the guy could do. So naturally I\'m diappointed with the injury !! I haven\'t read anything that\'s \'credible\' that says his knees are \'shot\'. Where did you hear this? I have read where Haslett is concerned whether or not he will play this year. But, you never know about those kind of statements. He might be tying to send a message to Cie. He might think Cie should be coming back quicker from the injury than what he is. Just speculation. But, you never know... As far as when to cut bait.... I leave that up to the medical staff and the coaches. They have much more to go on than I do. It is troubling that he\'s been injured and really hasn\'t been able to get on the filed. Not a good sign. [Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC]
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08-19-2004, 02:06 PM	#3
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Cut bait on Cie Don\'t think I\'d cut loose a guy we just drafted in the third round last year, even before his 2nd season started. Imagine where we\'d be if we did that to all our draft picks.

08-19-2004, 02:25 PM	#4
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Cut bait on Cie I read somewhere it was inflammation of the patella tendon. Having had 4 knee operations myself, if that\'s the case, it\'s much to early to cut him. This guy has an enormous amount of potential, I wouldn\'t want to see him picked up by someone with a little patience. Would you cut Stallworth?

08-19-2004, 02:34 PM	#5
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08-19-2004, 02:54 PM	#6
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Cut bait on Cie Would you cut Stallworth? No. But there are many who post here that would have. I wonder how many of \'em will admit it? saintfan -- There\'s a lack of patience by fans today. I blame it on video games. They just plug in players for \"instant\" success and \"cut\" the players they don\'t want. Works well in video games, I hear. Then of course, you have fantasy football. I\'m scared of video football and fantasy football. Might brainwash me too. :P Put down the video games and get a job!!!!!!! [Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC] [Edited on 19/8/2004 by GumboBC]
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08-19-2004, 04:42 PM	#7
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Cut bait on Cie Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

08-19-2004, 05:16 PM	#8
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Cut bait on Cie Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America? Nah, I don\'t believe that **** !!! I prefer to blame the parents and maybe some overmedication being precribed by some doctor. I actually grew up living in the arcades. I was the \"king.\" I played ESPN NFL 2K5 the other day. It\'s unbeleiveable how realsitc that game is. You\'ve got half time reports by Chris Berman, that are very accurate. Unbelievable stuff !! I hardly ever play those games. But, they are fun !! Just joking around.
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08-19-2004, 08:48 PM	#9
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Cut bait on Cie I really believe that Cie won\'t be the starter and the way it look\'s maybe not even number two, unless he can\'t get back into practice really soon. I know the guy is talented, but four surgeries and he is still experiencing problems, it makes you wonder what decision is the right one.

08-19-2004, 09:06 PM	#10
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Cut bait on Cie All I am saying is, in 2000 the average career of an nfl player was 3.2 years. http://www.newhouse.com/archive/story1b102700.html Cie had a minor knee issue in College... And now two in the Nfl in just two seasons. When I said \"his knees were shot\" I was referring to my memory of a story published by the Picayune last season, which discussed a condition in Cie\'s knee that wasn\'t debilitating... but caused pain. Pain that wouldn\'t go away with treatment, Cie would just have to play through it. Since I can\'t find that article, I understand you will all have different opinions on Cie\'s knees. All I am asking is, how many games will he sit out this year before you realize he can\'t make it physically? He only played in 7 games last season... I can\'t remember him making an impact in any of them. Then again 3 tackles is probably why. All I read on this site is how weak our LB corps is... Yet, this guy skates. I don\'t get it. Oh yeah and,, If Donte had only three catches his first season.... Yes I\'d say he was a bust too. Plus, Couldn\'t you leave everything up to the medical staff and coaches Billy?
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