Cut bait on Cie

frankeefrank · 08-19-2004, 12:20 PM

When do we cut bait on the Cie Grant experiment. The guy simply can't stay on the field. I don't care how fast he is, his knees are shot. He's taking up a roster spot in my opinion.

Potential can take you only so far

[Edited on 19/8/2004 by frankeefrank]

Danno · 08-20-2004, 06:49 AM

Most of you regulars know my philosophy but I think the best we can do with Cie is keep him as a bad-ass back-up, at two LB positions.

Let him continue to learn the MLB, to back up Watson and Ruff if necessary. He could easily slide over to the WLB as Rodgers primary back-up. It will prolong his career being an awesome back-up at two LB positions.

Somebody need a breather??? In comes Cie with his blazing speed and big hit ability.

He could probably play all 16 games as a solid back-up, and spot start if necessary.

He\'s a 3rd round pick. He\'s not costing us a fortune to keep him. Why cut him?

[Edited on 20/8/2004 by Danno]

GumboBC · 08-20-2004, 12:41 AM

I thought the talk of dumping Stallworth was nuts.

Ya think? LMAO !!

I remember that talk. Can you imagine if we would have cut Donte\'? Just imagine if our defense had to face Donte\' !! That\'s a scary thought !! That kid has had some hamstring problem but the kid has heart.

I wouldn\'t want us to face a motivated Donte\' Stallworth. I wouldn\'t want to face him period!!

You know, now that I\'m thinking about it, I wouldn\'t want to face our offense !! It\'s a monster full of play-makers. Deuce, Brooks, Donte\', Pathon, Devery, Boo, Conwell, and the O-line.

Hopefully, it all comes together this year :exclam:

Saintsin04 · 08-19-2004, 10:12 PM

Haslett says he has upside....well i hope so he was a third round pick. one more year of the knee problems and then cut him! Also wouldnt hurt if he added a couple of lbs

WhoDat · 08-19-2004, 10:57 PM

Billy - his knees are supposedly structurally sound, but apparently he will always play with pain. He is definitely injury prone at this point in his career.

That said, there\'s no way you dump him yet. I thought the talk of dumping Stallworth was nuts. He definitely needs to sack up this year, but you don\'t cut him. Same goes for Cie. He needs to get healthy but he\'s a long way from being cut.

CheramieIII · 08-19-2004, 07:48 PM

I really believe that Cie won\'t be the starter and the way it look\'s maybe not even number two, unless he can\'t get back into practice really soon. I know the guy is talented, but four surgeries and he is still experiencing problems, it makes you wonder what decision is the right one.

frankeefrank · 08-19-2004, 08:06 PM

All I am saying is, in 2000 the average career of an nfl player was 3.2 years.

http://www.newhouse.com/archive/story1b102700.html

Cie had a minor knee issue in College... And now two in the Nfl in just two seasons. When I said \"his knees were shot\" I was referring to my memory of a story published by the Picayune last season, which discussed a condition in Cie\'s knee that wasn\'t debilitating... but caused pain. Pain that wouldn\'t go away with treatment, Cie would just have to play through it.
Since I can\'t find that article, I understand you will all have different opinions on Cie\'s knees.
All I am asking is, how many games will he sit out this year before you realize he can\'t make it physically?
He only played in 7 games last season... I can\'t remember him making an impact in any of them.
Then again 3 tackles is probably why.
All I read on this site is how weak our LB corps is... Yet, this guy skates.
I don\'t get it.

Oh yeah and,, If Donte had only three catches his first season.... Yes I\'d say he was a bust too.

Plus, Couldn\'t you leave everything up to the medical staff and coaches Billy?

BlackandBlue · 08-19-2004, 03:42 PM

Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

GumboBC · 08-19-2004, 04:16 PM

Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

Nah, I don\'t believe that **** !!! I prefer to blame the parents and maybe some overmedication being precribed by some doctor.

I actually grew up living in the arcades. I was the \"king.\" I played ESPN NFL 2K5 the other day. It\'s unbeleiveable how realsitc that game is. You\'ve got half time reports by Chris Berman, that are very accurate. Unbelievable stuff !!

I hardly ever play those games. But, they are fun !! Just joking around.

BlackandBlue · 08-19-2004, 01:06 PM

Don\'t think I\'d cut loose a guy we just drafted in the third round last year, even before his 2nd season started. Imagine where we\'d be if we did that to all our draft picks.

08-19-2004, 12:20 PM	#1
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Cut bait on Cie When do we cut bait on the Cie Grant experiment. The guy simply can't stay on the field. I don't care how fast he is, his knees are shot. He's taking up a roster spot in my opinion. Potential can take you only so far [Edited on 19/8/2004 by frankeefrank]
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08-20-2004, 06:49 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Cut bait on Cie Most of you regulars know my philosophy but I think the best we can do with Cie is keep him as a bad-ass back-up, at two LB positions. Let him continue to learn the MLB, to back up Watson and Ruff if necessary. He could easily slide over to the WLB as Rodgers primary back-up. It will prolong his career being an awesome back-up at two LB positions. Somebody need a breather??? In comes Cie with his blazing speed and big hit ability. He could probably play all 16 games as a solid back-up, and spot start if necessary. He\'s a 3rd round pick. He\'s not costing us a fortune to keep him. Why cut him? [Edited on 20/8/2004 by Danno]

08-20-2004, 12:41 AM	#3
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Cut bait on Cie I thought the talk of dumping Stallworth was nuts. Ya think? LMAO !! I remember that talk. Can you imagine if we would have cut Donte\'? Just imagine if our defense had to face Donte\' !! That\'s a scary thought !! That kid has had some hamstring problem but the kid has heart. I wouldn\'t want us to face a motivated Donte\' Stallworth. I wouldn\'t want to face him period!! You know, now that I\'m thinking about it, I wouldn\'t want to face our offense !! It\'s a monster full of play-makers. Deuce, Brooks, Donte\', Pathon, Devery, Boo, Conwell, and the O-line. Hopefully, it all comes together this year :exclam:
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08-19-2004, 10:12 PM	#4
Saintsin04 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 68	Cut bait on Cie Haslett says he has upside....well i hope so he was a third round pick. one more year of the knee problems and then cut him! Also wouldnt hurt if he added a couple of lbs
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08-19-2004, 10:57 PM	#5
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Cut bait on Cie Billy - his knees are supposedly structurally sound, but apparently he will always play with pain. He is definitely injury prone at this point in his career. That said, there\'s no way you dump him yet. I thought the talk of dumping Stallworth was nuts. He definitely needs to sack up this year, but you don\'t cut him. Same goes for Cie. He needs to get healthy but he\'s a long way from being cut.
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08-19-2004, 07:48 PM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,489 Blog Entries: 3	Cut bait on Cie I really believe that Cie won\'t be the starter and the way it look\'s maybe not even number two, unless he can\'t get back into practice really soon. I know the guy is talented, but four surgeries and he is still experiencing problems, it makes you wonder what decision is the right one.

08-19-2004, 08:06 PM	#7
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Cut bait on Cie All I am saying is, in 2000 the average career of an nfl player was 3.2 years. http://www.newhouse.com/archive/story1b102700.html Cie had a minor knee issue in College... And now two in the Nfl in just two seasons. When I said \"his knees were shot\" I was referring to my memory of a story published by the Picayune last season, which discussed a condition in Cie\'s knee that wasn\'t debilitating... but caused pain. Pain that wouldn\'t go away with treatment, Cie would just have to play through it. Since I can\'t find that article, I understand you will all have different opinions on Cie\'s knees. All I am asking is, how many games will he sit out this year before you realize he can\'t make it physically? He only played in 7 games last season... I can\'t remember him making an impact in any of them. Then again 3 tackles is probably why. All I read on this site is how weak our LB corps is... Yet, this guy skates. I don\'t get it. Oh yeah and,, If Donte had only three catches his first season.... Yes I\'d say he was a bust too. Plus, Couldn\'t you leave everything up to the medical staff and coaches Billy?
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08-19-2004, 03:42 PM	#8
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Cut bait on Cie Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America?

08-19-2004, 04:16 PM	#9
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Cut bait on Cie Are you one of those that blames video games for the violence in America? Nah, I don\'t believe that **** !!! I prefer to blame the parents and maybe some overmedication being precribed by some doctor. I actually grew up living in the arcades. I was the \"king.\" I played ESPN NFL 2K5 the other day. It\'s unbeleiveable how realsitc that game is. You\'ve got half time reports by Chris Berman, that are very accurate. Unbelievable stuff !! I hardly ever play those games. But, they are fun !! Just joking around.
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616

08-19-2004, 01:06 PM	#10
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Cut bait on Cie Don\'t think I\'d cut loose a guy we just drafted in the third round last year, even before his 2nd season started. Imagine where we\'d be if we did that to all our draft picks.