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Joker 12-10-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BusDriver (Post 464138)
I'm sure arm strength has nothing to do with it, not to mention he was wearing gloves & the cold & the rain on top of it.

What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same.
I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month.

saintsfan403 12-10-2012 09:44 AM

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Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none.

dizzle88 12-10-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 464170)
Look at the play calling. That second pick was all because of lousy play calling. Ingram had a good run, we got a holding penalty and instead of trying to gain some yards on the ground before airing it out, they call for a 25 yard bomb. Awful play calling and missing training camp didn't help none.

Brees is fully to blame for that, he held out, got his money and is now making sure we get a top ten draft pick

SaintsBro 12-10-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 464162)
Drew doing too much???? What does that mean exactly? he is doing exactly what he has been doing for the last 5 years just not as good. I hate to be the guy but i think we have seen his best years. The whole "drew doing too much" is bogus. drew trying to do too much would be him trying to kick field goals now

This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011.

dizzle88 12-10-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 464180)
This Drew looks to me exactly like the 2008 Drew, interceptions and all. When he had no defense to back him up, he definitely takes it all on his shoulders and tries to do too much. Maybe you did not see him that year, compared to the better defense and more balanced running attack years of Drew 2009 and 2011.

I know what you mean, Like you say in 2008 brees had no running game and no defense, so why he is playing worse now than in 2008?

Brees threw 34 TD, 17 ints in 2008, he already had 18 ints now, with 3 weeks left

we have a running game and a defense that held ATL to 23 points when he turned it over 5 times, held SF to 17 points before brees threw two pick 6's and bailed the offense out twice with interceptions yesterday?

vpheughan 12-10-2012 10:28 AM

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Let's see if Drew throws 50+ times a game it makes his arm weak and because of him missing training camp (this is week 13) it makes him inaccurate. We should get one of the Cardinals QB's their arms are nice a rested!!

BusDriver 12-10-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 464165)
What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same.
I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month.

No excuses, just a different opinion. 9 picks, 3 games, facts are fact, even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. I just don't believe its his arm strength, more than self pressure & bad decisons. I can't stand how they are playing, its awful and its not just him.

Beastmode 12-10-2012 11:21 AM

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I don't have a problem with the picks, it's when it's happening that bothers me. If we are down and he throws some dangerous passes ok, but that's not what's going on. He throws dangerous passes all the time.
We could be up by 10 and he will still do it. If he doesn't do that we could have probably scraped out a few more W's .

Ashley 12-10-2012 12:02 PM

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I want to see us run the damn ball more. Drew has always missed the deep balls. That's nothing new, as far as the int's that is all him. Balls are to high, or being thrown behind or wr's.
On the cb's Greer was our best, and I have to agree this year he looks like Jason David!
Bottom line we need to run the damn ball, and on the D implode the whole unit. Most will not be back, so I don't think we will have to worry about that.

Ashley 12-10-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BusDriver (Post 464198)
, even if not all the picks were his fault he still gets credit for them. .

They were all his fault. They were too high or behind the WR's. yes the hit them in the hands, but come on when a WR is stretched out as far as they can go? Come on . It's the 100 million dollar mans fault... who carry's the blame, Head coaches and Qb's


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