Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk

12-13-2012, 01:01 PM

Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.

Beastmode · 12-13-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.

Less practice and less recovery is the recipe for an inferior product. Roger is not taking into account players that had to be benched because they were not ready. Play those players and the injuries go up. Those starters out and the quality goes down. Just looking at it from quanatative injury data is flawed to say the least.

TheOak · 12-13-2012, 01:38 PM

So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

SmashMouth · 12-13-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait......

Beastmode · 12-13-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.

TheOak · 12-13-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait......

I have the uncanny ability to not shoot the messenger. Regardless of who the messenger is, the message maintains its validity.

saintfan · 12-13-2012, 02:53 PM

Roger says there is no evidence that Thursday games put players at more risk. You'd think the man on the quest to rid football of all its ills would err on the side of caution.

Bang the hell out of people in a game situation on Sunday, then come back and do it again 4 days later rather than 7 days later. Hmmmm...

TheOak · 12-13-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.

Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.

Budsdrinker · 12-13-2012, 03:04 PM

What Thursday games do is actually water downs the talent you see on the field. I'll try to look it up tonight but if someone else wants to research it, look and see how many starters sat out of a Thursday game after being dinged in a Sunday game. I'll bet it's at least 10 starters that missed games.

Beastmode · 12-13-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.

Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Originally Posted by TheOak Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season. Less practice and less recovery is the recipe for an inferior product. Roger is not taking into account players that had to be benched because they were not ready. Play those players and the injuries go up. Those starters out and the quality goes down. Just looking at it from quanatative injury data is flawed to say the least. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk So there is no data to support,we go on theory? Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Originally Posted by TheOak So there is no data to support,we go on theory? Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started? Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait...... saintfan likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Originally Posted by SmashMouth Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait...... I have the uncanny ability to not shoot the messenger. Regardless of who the messenger is, the message maintains its validity.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Roger says there is no evidence that Thursday games put players at more risk. You'd think the man on the quest to rid football of all its ills would err on the side of caution. Bang the hell out of people in a game situation on Sunday, then come back and do it again 4 days later rather than 7 days later. Hmmmm...

12-13-2012, 03:02 PM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Originally Posted by Beastmode This is where Roger has failed: 1. Applying data 2. Making gut calls A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say. Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money.... I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk What Thursday games do is actually water downs the talent you see on the field. I'll try to look it up tonight but if someone else wants to research it, look and see how many starters sat out of a Thursday game after being dinged in a Sunday game. I'll bet it's at least 10 starters that missed games.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk Originally Posted by TheOak Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money.... I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm. Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.
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