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Old 12-13-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.
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Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.
Less practice and less recovery is the recipe for an inferior product. Roger is not taking into account players that had to be benched because they were not ready. Play those players and the injuries go up. Those starters out and the quality goes down. Just looking at it from quanatative injury data is flawed to say the least.
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So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?
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So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?
Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait......
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Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait......
I have the uncanny ability to not shoot the messenger. Regardless of who the messenger is, the message maintains its validity.
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So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?
This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.
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This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.

Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.
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Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.

Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.
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Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.
The NFL is a multi hundred billion dollar corporation. Goodell is the face... A meat puppet if you will... In a normal company of that size the CEO is the highest power and authority with the exception of the Board of Directors. In this case the BoD are comprised of members worth more than the NFL.... not my point though..

In a company this size there are thousands of lawyers, analysts, marketing, etc... Goodells actions and words are vetted by all of them. No man in his right mind turns over a portion of a near trillion dollar empire to one man. Thats sheer lunacy. In the wake of Enron CEOs have less total power... Even the President of the United States is kept in check by a system of checks and balances.

The BoD meets often and from that they give Goodell his directive, every action he does to achieve that directive is vetted.

Take Apple and Microsoft for instance, for many years there has been speculation as to whether Jobs, and gates actually participate in the daily running of the companies of if they are just figure heads.....

Evidence of Goodells power and actual decision making is when the NFLPA or the NFLCA meet with the NFL, lawyers come to terms and make the deals... Not Goodell, he isn't even present at those meetings.

On a smaller scale when a VP of operations of a company tells a District manager to cut 20% of his personnel, he does it, or someone is found that will do it. That manager takes all the heat and beating while the VP still looks rosy.

What most people that do not come from a corporate environment or have held any noteworthy position in companies of that size, don't realize is that the two factions that run those companies are Human Resources, and Accountants. Most CEOs these days Halliburton for example are run by ex Accountants.

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Roger says there is no evidence that Thursday games put players at more risk. You'd think the man on the quest to rid football of all its ills would err on the side of caution.

Bang the hell out of people in a game situation on Sunday, then come back and do it again 4 days later rather than 7 days later. Hmmmm...
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