Goodell's Accountability

TheOak · 12-17-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I do not think Roger was directed by the owners to do this. At best he sent them misinformation to get them to go along with this under the guise of player safety and to hopefully get some concessions after all the law suits come to the courts. Even then I think it will have little impact on the cases that are pending. Goodell did this out of malice for the Saints organization and for some personal reasons that we may never know. I am just hopefull that enough stick will come off of this that the owners will have to make a move. Even then this man will get a golden parachute that He does not deserve but at least I would not have to look at His face again.

So you think the NFL Owners are dolts? Think they would be lead down a path such as we have seen by one man?

Your telling me that people like Jerry Jones, Author Blank, Steve Biscoitti, Robert McNair... Peoples who net worth exceed $1B would just let Roger Goodell just play with their billion dollar franchises? or their +100B league?

No Sir... These are not men with a normal to high gullibility factor. They knew, and they have had the power to put the brakes on it each and every day since it started.

Don't let your hatred for Goodell lead you to think he pulled this all off by him self.

Shoe. · 12-17-2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Don't let your hatred for Goodell lead you to think he pulled this all off by him self.

I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time.

I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person?

If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well

TheOak · 12-17-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time.

I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person?

If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well

I suspect... Or the way I would have framed it would be like this.
note: When you sit around billionaires you give them the dirty... they are smart enough to figure the rest out.

"Here is the dirty Tom, take one for the shield quietly so we have at least SOMETHING to fight lawsuits with, or leave us with nothing and eventually lose the 978mm value of your team in the long run".. "and go back to selling cars"

"yea... that... the vote.... so far Tom I suppose the count would be 31-1 in our favor"

"I agree this is just like being in prison, you can take it quietly or you can scream.. either way, you are getting it dry".

"If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause".

New Orleans Saints on the Forbes NFL Team Valuations List

All 31 teams owners have broken it off in someones arse to get where they are and KNOW how the game is played. (Packers are publicly owned)

War is not as brutal and bloody as big business.

Vrillon82 · 12-17-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I suspect... Or the way I would have framed it would be like this.
note: When you sit around billionaires you give them the dirty... they are smart enough to figure the rest out.

"Here is the dirty Tom, take one for the shield quietly so we have at least SOMETHING to fight lawsuits with, or leave us with nothing and eventually lose the 978mm value of your team in the long run".. "and go back to selling cars"

"yea... that... the vote.... so far Tom I suppose the count would be 31-1 in our favor"

"I agree this is just like being in prison, you can take it quietly or you can scream.. either way, you are getting it dry".

"If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause".

New Orleans Saints on the Forbes NFL Team Valuations List

All 31 teams owners have broken it off in someones arse to get where they are and KNOW how the game is played. (Packers are publicly owned)

War is not as brutal and bloody as big business.

I dunno about the Packers being publicly owned. I think all of that was Grade A Fraud.

But now going back to the Owners, one would question also this..........how much influence does Coaches and Staff have on the Owners of a team?

I venture to say plenty.

TheOak · 12-17-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I dunno about the Packers being publicly owned. I think all of that was Grade A Fraud.

But now going back to the Owners, one would question also this..........how much influence does Coaches and Staff have on the Owners of a team?

I venture to say plenty.

Coaches and staff influence Owners of NFL teams? As much as managers in a privately owned grocery store have over the owner (in this type of scenario).... Depends on the owner, but I would guess employees that are able to influence the owner of a business are not as prevalent as you would assume... At some point in the org chart the transparency stops, and the calculated message is delivered.

This is pure speculation on my part: There are 3 people who are quiet about Bounty Gate, and have been pretty much very quiet about the whole thing in comparison to the rest. Tom Benson, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton...

Who influences Jerry Jones? Not the coaches, team, or the fans.

Packers publicly owned is fraud?
Green Bay Packers Board of Directors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shoe. · 12-18-2012, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

"If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause".

Other than a follow-up trip to NY by himself (which still puzzles me, mainly WHY and WHAT came of it), Benson has kept very quiet about this, and other than playing a concert with a pretty high-profile musician who was wearing a "Free Sean Payton" shirt, Sean and Mickey have kept their heads down and quiet. If that's not following what The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person told them to do from the get-go, I don't know what is.

tl;dr - I'm not holding my breath that we get our 2nd rounder back, but its hard to argue that Benson, Loomis, and Payton haven't kept a respectable silence about this whole debacle/charade, as directed by rog 5 months ago

Vrillon82 · 12-17-2012, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time.

I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person?

If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well

I am kind of with you on this, things in this league have seem scripted.

But its been like this before Goodell and to me its felt like this since the late 90s after the NFL put the Salary caps in place the way they have.

12-17-2012, 10:38 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by Supertek I do not think Roger was directed by the owners to do this. At best he sent them misinformation to get them to go along with this under the guise of player safety and to hopefully get some concessions after all the law suits come to the courts. Even then I think it will have little impact on the cases that are pending. Goodell did this out of malice for the Saints organization and for some personal reasons that we may never know. I am just hopefull that enough stick will come off of this that the owners will have to make a move. Even then this man will get a golden parachute that He does not deserve but at least I would not have to look at His face again. So you think the NFL Owners are dolts? Think they would be lead down a path such as we have seen by one man? Your telling me that people like Jerry Jones, Author Blank, Steve Biscoitti, Robert McNair... Peoples who net worth exceed $1B would just let Roger Goodell just play with their billion dollar franchises? or their +100B league? No Sir... These are not men with a normal to high gullibility factor. They knew, and they have had the power to put the brakes on it each and every day since it started. Don't let your hatred for Goodell lead you to think he pulled this all off by him self.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-17-2012, 12:07 PM	#2
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by TheOak Don't let your hatred for Goodell lead you to think he pulled this all off by him self. I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time. I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person? If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well

12-17-2012, 12:25 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by Shoe. I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time. I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person? If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well I suspect... Or the way I would have framed it would be like this. note: When you sit around billionaires you give them the dirty... they are smart enough to figure the rest out. "Here is the dirty Tom, take one for the shield quietly so we have at least SOMETHING to fight lawsuits with, or leave us with nothing and eventually lose the 978mm value of your team in the long run".. "and go back to selling cars" "yea... that... the vote.... so far Tom I suppose the count would be 31-1 in our favor" "I agree this is just like being in prison, you can take it quietly or you can scream.. either way, you are getting it dry". "If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause". New Orleans Saints on the Forbes NFL Team Valuations List All 31 teams owners have broken it off in someones arse to get where they are and KNOW how the game is played. (Packers are publicly owned) War is not as brutal and bloody as big business.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-17-2012, 01:13 PM	#4
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by TheOak I suspect... Or the way I would have framed it would be like this. note: When you sit around billionaires you give them the dirty... they are smart enough to figure the rest out. "Here is the dirty Tom, take one for the shield quietly so we have at least SOMETHING to fight lawsuits with, or leave us with nothing and eventually lose the 978mm value of your team in the long run".. "and go back to selling cars" "yea... that... the vote.... so far Tom I suppose the count would be 31-1 in our favor" "I agree this is just like being in prison, you can take it quietly or you can scream.. either way, you are getting it dry". "If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause". New Orleans Saints on the Forbes NFL Team Valuations List All 31 teams owners have broken it off in someones arse to get where they are and KNOW how the game is played. (Packers are publicly owned) War is not as brutal and bloody as big business. I dunno about the Packers being publicly owned. I think all of that was Grade A Fraud. But now going back to the Owners, one would question also this..........how much influence does Coaches and Staff have on the Owners of a team? I venture to say plenty.
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12-17-2012, 01:29 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I dunno about the Packers being publicly owned. I think all of that was Grade A Fraud. But now going back to the Owners, one would question also this..........how much influence does Coaches and Staff have on the Owners of a team? I venture to say plenty. Coaches and staff influence Owners of NFL teams? As much as managers in a privately owned grocery store have over the owner (in this type of scenario).... Depends on the owner, but I would guess employees that are able to influence the owner of a business are not as prevalent as you would assume... At some point in the org chart the transparency stops, and the calculated message is delivered. This is pure speculation on my part: There are 3 people who are quiet about Bounty Gate, and have been pretty much very quiet about the whole thing in comparison to the rest. Tom Benson, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton... Who influences Jerry Jones? Not the coaches, team, or the fans. Packers publicly owned is fraud? Green Bay Packers Board of Directors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

12-18-2012, 10:52 AM	#6
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by TheOak "If you take it quietly I am sure we can all spare a contribution to your cause". Other than a follow-up trip to NY by himself (which still puzzles me, mainly WHY and WHAT came of it), Benson has kept very quiet about this, and other than playing a concert with a pretty high-profile musician who was wearing a "Free Sean Payton" shirt, Sean and Mickey have kept their heads down and quiet. If that's not following what The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person told them to do from the get-go, I don't know what is. tl;dr - I'm not holding my breath that we get our 2nd rounder back, but its hard to argue that Benson, Loomis, and Payton haven't kept a respectable silence about this whole debacle/charade, as directed by rog 5 months ago

12-17-2012, 01:10 PM	#7
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Goodell's Accountability Originally Posted by Shoe. I wish I could have been in the meeting where Benson was told he was gonna have to take one for the team this time. I wonder which owner it was that told him that, or something to that effect anyway. Jerrah? The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live and In Person? If everything is as scripted as it certainly feels sometimes, then Benson has known for a while how this whole thing was gonna play out, cause its his $$ on the line as well I am kind of with you on this, things in this league have seem scripted. But its been like this before Goodell and to me its felt like this since the late 90s after the NFL put the Salary caps in place the way they have.
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