Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper

FinSaint · 12-18-2012, 12:23 AM

I do remember the story involving a failed physical with the Dolphins before Brees even met with the representatives of the Saints', so this "news" doesn't affect the way I feel about Brees signing with the Saints one bit.

thefifthwall · 12-18-2012, 01:30 AM

Of course Drew failed a physical. That was known before the visit. Dr Andrews himself would not give him clearance at that point. Culpepper also would not have been 100%. So a decision had to be made. And Saban had full control to make the decision he did

SaintnDE · 12-18-2012, 05:40 AM

I can understand their position on it though, really. Would you rather take a QB with an injured knee (Culpepper) or a throwing shoulder (Brees). I am pretty sure which path most of us would have taken.

20/20 hindsight is 100/100 for us fans tho...wouldnt trade him for anyone.

CharityMike · 12-18-2012, 08:42 AM

I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins.

So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

SaintsBro · 12-18-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins.

So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007.

There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is.

I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do.

Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees.

The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that.

CharityMike · 12-18-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007.

There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is.

I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do.

Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees.

The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that.

I figured I was just over thinking it. I don't know why, it hit a nerve for some reason. I don't think I am going out of my way to find something to dislike about Brees. You won't find a post of me saying anything to that point. You know me better than that. Hell..I have 4 jerseys and 3 of them have #9 on them..lol

bobdog86 · 12-18-2012, 08:47 AM

I'm not sure we'll ever really know the exact dialogue and the manner that the situation and end results came to pass, and that's alright with me.

Mardigras9 · 12-18-2012, 08:48 AM

Doesn't really matter, does it? Brees is a Saint.

NuNu318 · 12-18-2012, 09:32 AM

Who gives a s***? Brees is a Saint....we have a Lombardi....and Saban is trying to use the PR spin to make it seem to any NFL teams that might want him that "hey I had a valid reason for passing up Brees" so it doesn't look like he is the complete idiot he looked like during the last NFL stint he had.

It doesn't mean anything....even if Brees didn't pass the physical....even if this was his last resort....bottom line is neither the Saints fans, organization or Brees regret him coming here one bit.

UK_WhoDat · 12-18-2012, 12:30 PM

And Saban's point is?

12-18-2012, 12:23 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I do remember the story involving a failed physical with the Dolphins before Brees even met with the representatives of the Saints', so this "news" doesn't affect the way I feel about Brees signing with the Saints one bit.

12-18-2012, 01:30 AM	#2
thefifthwall 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 121	Of course Drew failed a physical. That was known before the visit. Dr Andrews himself would not give him clearance at that point. Culpepper also would not have been 100%. So a decision had to be made. And Saban had full control to make the decision he did
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12-18-2012, 05:40 AM	#3
SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I can understand their position on it though, really. Would you rather take a QB with an injured knee (Culpepper) or a throwing shoulder (Brees). I am pretty sure which path most of us would have taken. 20/20 hindsight is 100/100 for us fans tho...wouldnt trade him for anyone.
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12-18-2012, 08:42 AM	#4
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins. So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

12-18-2012, 09:29 AM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by CharityMike I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins. So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time. No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007. There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is. I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do. Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees. The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that. SaintGup likes this.

12-18-2012, 09:51 AM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by SaintsBro No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007. There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is. I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do. Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees. The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that. I figured I was just over thinking it. I don't know why, it hit a nerve for some reason. I don't think I am going out of my way to find something to dislike about Brees. You won't find a post of me saying anything to that point. You know me better than that. Hell..I have 4 jerseys and 3 of them have #9 on them..lol

12-18-2012, 08:47 AM	#7
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,487	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I'm not sure we'll ever really know the exact dialogue and the manner that the situation and end results came to pass, and that's alright with me. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-18-2012, 08:48 AM	#8
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Doesn't really matter, does it? Brees is a Saint.

12-18-2012, 09:32 AM	#9
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Who gives a s***? Brees is a Saint....we have a Lombardi....and Saban is trying to use the PR spin to make it seem to any NFL teams that might want him that "hey I had a valid reason for passing up Brees" so it doesn't look like he is the complete idiot he looked like during the last NFL stint he had. It doesn't mean anything....even if Brees didn't pass the physical....even if this was his last resort....bottom line is neither the Saints fans, organization or Brees regret him coming here one bit.

12-18-2012, 12:30 PM	#10
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