Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper

CharityMike · 12-18-2012, 09:42 AM

I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins.

So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

bobdog86 · 12-18-2012, 09:47 AM

I'm not sure we'll ever really know the exact dialogue and the manner that the situation and end results came to pass, and that's alright with me.

Mardigras9 · 12-18-2012, 09:48 AM

Doesn't really matter, does it? Brees is a Saint.

RockyMountainSaint · 12-18-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Saban is a jerk... ask any LSU fan.

My Saban Voodoo doll

SaintsBro · 12-18-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins.

So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007.

There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is.

I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do.

Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees.

The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that.

NuNu318 · 12-18-2012, 10:32 AM

Who gives a s***? Brees is a Saint....we have a Lombardi....and Saban is trying to use the PR spin to make it seem to any NFL teams that might want him that "hey I had a valid reason for passing up Brees" so it doesn't look like he is the complete idiot he looked like during the last NFL stint he had.

It doesn't mean anything....even if Brees didn't pass the physical....even if this was his last resort....bottom line is neither the Saints fans, organization or Brees regret him coming here one bit.

CharityMike · 12-18-2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007.

There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is.

I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do.

Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees.

The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that.

I figured I was just over thinking it. I don't know why, it hit a nerve for some reason. I don't think I am going out of my way to find something to dislike about Brees. You won't find a post of me saying anything to that point. You know me better than that. Hell..I have 4 jerseys and 3 of them have #9 on them..lol

WillSaints81 · 12-18-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

My Saban Voodoo doll

What is that image supposed to mean? And is that Miles on the top?

Jamessr · 12-18-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How could Brees fail a physical for the Dolphins, and then pass one for the Saints?

I think that the Dolphins wanted Culpepper from the start because of Brees' injury but also because Culpepper is taller.

Brees stated in his book even in his 1st preseason game he wasn't 100%. Plus he didn't like the way he way he was treated in Miami. Everything was about his throwing arm and they could care less about the person attached.
New Orleans was a totally different story. They actually watched film and spoke about the future.
All in his book and its a good read.

UK_WhoDat · 12-18-2012, 01:30 PM

And Saban's point is?

12-18-2012, 09:42 AM	#11
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins. So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time.

12-18-2012, 09:47 AM	#12
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper I'm not sure we'll ever really know the exact dialogue and the manner that the situation and end results came to pass, and that's alright with me. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-18-2012, 09:48 AM	#13
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Doesn't really matter, does it? Brees is a Saint.

12-18-2012, 10:10 AM	#14
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by foreverfan Saban is a jerk... ask any LSU fan. My Saban Voodoo doll Attached Thumbnails

12-18-2012, 10:29 AM	#15
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by CharityMike I guess what I am getting at is all that "make a difference" crap was just PR spin cycle chit. It wasn't known that an "agreement" was already made between Brees and the Dolphins. So in my mind, the only reason he came here was because the first team he selected ended up not wanting him so he choose us. We were the only 2 teams interested in him. So he went to the only place that would give him a chance but thats not the way it was spun at the time. No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007. There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is. I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do. Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees. The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that. SaintGup likes this.

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12-18-2012, 10:32 AM	#16
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Who gives a s***? Brees is a Saint....we have a Lombardi....and Saban is trying to use the PR spin to make it seem to any NFL teams that might want him that "hey I had a valid reason for passing up Brees" so it doesn't look like he is the complete idiot he looked like during the last NFL stint he had. It doesn't mean anything....even if Brees didn't pass the physical....even if this was his last resort....bottom line is neither the Saints fans, organization or Brees regret him coming here one bit.

12-18-2012, 10:51 AM	#17
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by SaintsBro No, I think you are way overthinking this, or even going out of your way just looking for things to dislike about Brees. The Saints were maybe the last stop for Brees that year, but it's very likely that with another year of rest and rehab, someone else would have signed him in 2007. There was a guy, an executive in the music business, who walked around for years being known as "the guy who passed up the Beatles" because he had them in his office and didn't give them a contract, so they signed with another company....and Saban is trying to cover his a--, and NOT be seen as that guy. It is what it is. I mean this respectfully, but you're also kinda forgetting how real Katrina was. EVERYBODY was saying that kind of stuff about rebuilding and they all meant it. Payton said it. Fujita said it. I could name more. I think you're just really kinda wrong about that, because there's a lot of distance from it now, but you have to go back to the time and remember how real that **** was. People were passionate. It was the right thing to do. Remember the story about Sean Payton coming to interview, and getting lost coming off the interstate, and ending up in some horrific flood zone driving around looking at everything? Was that the main reason he took the Saints job? NO. Did it make a profound impact on him in his process of deciding? Absolutely yes. Same with Brees. The only way you could believe it was "PR spin cycle chit" for Brees to say that, was if you are one of those people who believed the city should not have been rebuilt, and I know you well enough to know I don't think you believe that. I figured I was just over thinking it. I don't know why, it hit a nerve for some reason. I don't think I am going out of my way to find something to dislike about Brees. You won't find a post of me saying anything to that point. You know me better than that. Hell..I have 4 jerseys and 3 of them have #9 on them..lol

12-18-2012, 12:16 PM	#18
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint My Saban Voodoo doll What is that image supposed to mean? And is that Miles on the top?

12-18-2012, 01:00 PM	#19
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Saban says Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How could Brees fail a physical for the Dolphins, and then pass one for the Saints? I think that the Dolphins wanted Culpepper from the start because of Brees' injury but also because Culpepper is taller. Brees stated in his book even in his 1st preseason game he wasn't 100%. Plus he didn't like the way he way he was treated in Miami. Everything was about his throwing arm and they could care less about the person attached. New Orleans was a totally different story. They actually watched film and spoke about the future. All in his book and its a good read. Rugby Saint II and SaintsBro like this.

12-18-2012, 01:30 PM	#20
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