Saints facing a cap mess in 2013

Saintaintso · 12-22-2012, 09:05 PM

I don't think we should say goodbye to Vilma Just yet. He's been injured this entire season in and out of the courtroom , playing with a new DC and SP is gone. That was hardly a fair shake. And he still performed better than expected. Lofton and Vilma are sure Tacklers ... As a Saints fan the last thing I want to see is us giving up a Pro Bowl Linebacker for a Shoestring diving idiot.

Smith to me is long gone. No production at all for what we are paying him ...

Restructure Brees , Graham in a backloaded contract.

Heck if we're getting rid of anyone I want at least 1 of the RB's gone , and Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed.

Sign Dwight Freeney or Draft a Stud DE ,

QBREES9 · 12-22-2012, 10:13 PM

Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed.

Now thats funny !

lumm0x · 12-22-2012, 10:45 PM

I think they find a way to bring back Vilma at a friendlier number.

Beastmode · 12-23-2012, 12:07 AM

Loomis looked at all this and developed several courses of action. Not that concerned about it.

Nemesis · 12-23-2012, 12:19 AM

Brees isn't about to restructure anything other than his man cave. His contract is just was he demanded. It's easy for the most ill-informed to suggest restructuring his freshly minted deal, along with the others proclaiming how they'd offer various FA talents vet minimum with a "heavily incentive laden contract." Players will only hand you a hearty FU through their agents, then sign elsewhere. Did Peyton offer to renegotiate?

I've seen dozens of posts hollerin "Just pay the man whatever he wants." during negotiations with Brees. I couldn't disagree, considering the value of Brees to this franchise. Simple fact is that the Saints had no choice if they'd like to see the promised land again over the next 3 years. We really can't compete for any D FA studs due to this deal. Players and depth will be lost, yet we likely can't get another franchise QB anytime soon. I simply cannot hate on any NFL player getting all they can while the gettin's good. The next snap may easily be their last.

Well played, Drew. You've earned it, dawg.

jeanpierre · 12-23-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Brees isn't about to restructure anything other than his man cave. His contract is just was he demanded. It's easy for the most ill-informed to suggest restructuring his freshly minted deal, along with the others proclaiming how they'd offer various FA talents vet minimum with a "heavily incentive laden contract." Players will only hand you a hearty FU through their agents, then sign elsewhere. Did Peyton offer to renegotiate?

I've seen dozens of posts hollerin "Just pay the man whatever he wants." during negotiations with Brees. I couldn't disagree, considering the value of Brees to this franchise. Simple fact is that the Saints had no choice if they'd like to see the promised land again over the next 3 years. We really can't compete for any D FA studs due to this deal. Players and depth will be lost, yet we likely can't get another franchise QB anytime soon. I simply cannot hate on any NFL player getting all they can while the gettin's good. The next snap may easily be their last.

Well played, Drew. You've earned it, dawg.

He won't win another SuperBowl if he doesn't have the supporting cast...

Danno · 12-23-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed.

Now thats funny !

It would be funny if it was even close to true, but it isn't.

thefifthwall · 12-23-2012, 10:21 PM

Got a lot of over priced players under performing. Don't see the cap problem. Only problem I see is if we keep them. If you're the worst defense of all time then you can't do much worst in rebuilding.

SaintPauly · 12-23-2012, 11:04 PM

Is graham still under contract? What about Sproles?

saintfan · 12-23-2012, 11:28 PM

No doubt Loomie has it under control. I doubt he woke up one morning and said, "jeesh, we're screwed."

I'm not worried. Frankly, as has been mentioned here any many times before, we need to keep the core together and I think we will, but we have some high-priced dead weight, especially on defense, that probably won't be on the team next year.

Not worried about it a'tall.

12-22-2012, 09:05 PM	#11
Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 I don't think we should say goodbye to Vilma Just yet. He's been injured this entire season in and out of the courtroom , playing with a new DC and SP is gone. That was hardly a fair shake. And he still performed better than expected. Lofton and Vilma are sure Tacklers ... As a Saints fan the last thing I want to see is us giving up a Pro Bowl Linebacker for a Shoestring diving idiot. Smith to me is long gone. No production at all for what we are paying him ... Restructure Brees , Graham in a backloaded contract. Heck if we're getting rid of anyone I want at least 1 of the RB's gone , and Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed. Sign Dwight Freeney or Draft a Stud DE ,
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12-22-2012, 10:13 PM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed. Now thats funny ! jeanpierre likes this.

12-22-2012, 10:45 PM	#13
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 I think they find a way to bring back Vilma at a friendlier number.

12-23-2012, 12:07 AM	#14
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Loomis looked at all this and developed several courses of action. Not that concerned about it.
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12-23-2012, 12:19 AM	#15
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Brees isn't about to restructure anything other than his man cave. His contract is just was he demanded. It's easy for the most ill-informed to suggest restructuring his freshly minted deal, along with the others proclaiming how they'd offer various FA talents vet minimum with a "heavily incentive laden contract." Players will only hand you a hearty FU through their agents, then sign elsewhere. Did Peyton offer to renegotiate? I've seen dozens of posts hollerin "Just pay the man whatever he wants." during negotiations with Brees. I couldn't disagree, considering the value of Brees to this franchise. Simple fact is that the Saints had no choice if they'd like to see the promised land again over the next 3 years. We really can't compete for any D FA studs due to this deal. Players and depth will be lost, yet we likely can't get another franchise QB anytime soon. I simply cannot hate on any NFL player getting all they can while the gettin's good. The next snap may easily be their last. Well played, Drew. You've earned it, dawg.
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12-23-2012, 11:59 AM	#16
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Originally Posted by Nemesis Brees isn't about to restructure anything other than his man cave. His contract is just was he demanded. It's easy for the most ill-informed to suggest restructuring his freshly minted deal, along with the others proclaiming how they'd offer various FA talents vet minimum with a "heavily incentive laden contract." Players will only hand you a hearty FU through their agents, then sign elsewhere. Did Peyton offer to renegotiate? I've seen dozens of posts hollerin "Just pay the man whatever he wants." during negotiations with Brees. I couldn't disagree, considering the value of Brees to this franchise. Simple fact is that the Saints had no choice if they'd like to see the promised land again over the next 3 years. We really can't compete for any D FA studs due to this deal. Players and depth will be lost, yet we likely can't get another franchise QB anytime soon. I simply cannot hate on any NFL player getting all they can while the gettin's good. The next snap may easily be their last. Well played, Drew. You've earned it, dawg. He won't win another SuperBowl if he doesn't have the supporting cast...

12-23-2012, 12:19 PM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Originally Posted by QBREES9 Roman Harper. That man can't cover his feet with a Blanket in bed. Now thats funny ! It would be funny if it was even close to true, but it isn't.

12-23-2012, 10:21 PM	#18
thefifthwall 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 121	Got a lot of over priced players under performing. Don't see the cap problem. Only problem I see is if we keep them. If you're the worst defense of all time then you can't do much worst in rebuilding.
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12-23-2012, 11:04 PM	#19
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 Is graham still under contract? What about Sproles?

12-23-2012, 11:28 PM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints facing a cap mess in 2013 No doubt Loomie has it under control. I doubt he woke up one morning and said, "jeesh, we're screwed." I'm not worried. Frankly, as has been mentioned here any many times before, we need to keep the core together and I think we will, but we have some high-priced dead weight, especially on defense, that probably won't be on the team next year. Not worried about it a'tall.

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