Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"?

FinSaint · 01-03-2013, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Screw the damn 2nd round pick, this tool bag isn't giving it back because everything I've read said it will cost the Saints later round picks. When was the last time the Saints did well in the 2nd round? HELLO ... Saints have shown they can find gems later in the draft so maybe it's time to back off some just keep things the way they are

Considering that they've only had 2 2nd round draft pick during the recent 5 drafts - 2010: Charles Brown and 2008: Tracy Porter - it's pretty difficult to evaluate their 2nd round draft success.

But just to give you the other recent 2nd rounders:

2006: Roman Harper
2005: Josh Bullocks
2004: Devery Henderson & Courtney Watson
2003: Jonathan Stinchcomb

So, I'd say that they've had some pretty good picks in the 2nd round, and I'd take that 2nd rounder back in a heart beat even if it meant that the franchise had to do some groveling in order to make it happen.

A pick is a pick is a pick, and the higher they are, the more valuable they are.

RaginCajun83 · 01-03-2013, 10:11 AM

From that list only Devery was decent which goes to show this team can't draft in the 2nd round

It's like this organization doesn't value a 2nd rounder the same way us fans do

FinSaint · 01-03-2013, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

From that list only Devery was decent which goes to show this team can't draft in the 2nd round

It's like this organization doesn't value a 2nd rounder the same way us fans do

IDK, naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I think most would evaluate at least Porter, Harper and Stinchcomb to also be at least decent 2nd round picks.

No team hits on their every pick, on every round, and each and every year, so we have to think about this within that framework, and based on that - I'd have to say that the Saints have faired quite well with their 2nd round picks.

D_it_up · 01-03-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

IDK, naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I think most would evaluate at least Porter, Harper and Stinchcomb to also be at least decent 2nd round picks.

No team hits on their every pick, on every round, and each and every year, so we have to think about this within that framework, and based on that - I'd have to say that the Saints have faired quite well with their 2nd round picks.

Agreed. I'd say the only two of that group that they really tanked on were Watson and Bullocks. The jury is still out on Brown, but so far, not so good. Devery, Stinch, Porter, and Harper turned out to be beneficial for the Saints in one way or another.

Supertek · 01-03-2013, 03:18 PM

Dont hold your breath waiting on Goddell to do anything for the Saints. We always do worst with our first rounders

73Saint · 01-03-2013, 03:44 PM

After he leaves New Orleans in February, we will be lucky to have a franchise. This City is going to show it's A$$ to him whenever the opportunity presents itself. And outside of anything illegal, I'm going to love every second of it. Screw that Ba$tard!!

Danno · 01-03-2013, 04:04 PM

I think he'd like to see an incident free Superbowl and what better way to appease the natives than restoring that draft pick the week before the Superbowl.

It won't keep some folks quiet, but it'll help.

SmashMouth · 01-03-2013, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think he'd like to see an incident free Superbowl and what better way to appease the natives than restoring that draft pick the week before the Superbowl.

It won't keep some folks quiet, but it'll help.

Are you bringing your new gun to the corral?

Rugby Saint II · 01-03-2013, 05:20 PM

Godhell you can kiss my arse. Keep your 2nd round black mail attempt. He wouldn't be giving us anything anyway, he would simply be screwing us out of other draft picks. No f$#&ing thank you.

RaginCajun83 · 01-03-2013, 05:46 PM

Only times the Saints hit on their 2nd rounder was Devery, Vilma and Shockey. Only including them two cause it took trading that pick to acquire them. As for Goddell, that POS can keep the 2nd rounder and shove it, I hope the city show how displeased we are with this ******** when he shows up for SuperBowl week

01-03-2013, 09:56 AM	#21
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Screw the damn 2nd round pick, this tool bag isn't giving it back because everything I've read said it will cost the Saints later round picks. When was the last time the Saints did well in the 2nd round? HELLO ... Saints have shown they can find gems later in the draft so maybe it's time to back off some just keep things the way they are Considering that they've only had 2 2nd round draft pick during the recent 5 drafts - 2010: Charles Brown and 2008: Tracy Porter - it's pretty difficult to evaluate their 2nd round draft success. But just to give you the other recent 2nd rounders: 2006: Roman Harper 2005: Josh Bullocks 2004: Devery Henderson & Courtney Watson 2003: Jonathan Stinchcomb So, I'd say that they've had some pretty good picks in the 2nd round, and I'd take that 2nd rounder back in a heart beat even if it meant that the franchise had to do some groveling in order to make it happen. A pick is a pick is a pick, and the higher they are, the more valuable they are.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

01-03-2013, 10:11 AM	#22
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? From that list only Devery was decent which goes to show this team can't draft in the 2nd round It's like this organization doesn't value a 2nd rounder the same way us fans do

01-03-2013, 11:06 AM	#23
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 From that list only Devery was decent which goes to show this team can't draft in the 2nd round It's like this organization doesn't value a 2nd rounder the same way us fans do IDK, naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I think most would evaluate at least Porter, Harper and Stinchcomb to also be at least decent 2nd round picks. No team hits on their every pick, on every round, and each and every year, so we have to think about this within that framework, and based on that - I'd have to say that the Saints have faired quite well with their 2nd round picks.

01-03-2013, 01:11 PM	#24
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Originally Posted by FinSaint IDK, naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I think most would evaluate at least Porter, Harper and Stinchcomb to also be at least decent 2nd round picks. No team hits on their every pick, on every round, and each and every year, so we have to think about this within that framework, and based on that - I'd have to say that the Saints have faired quite well with their 2nd round picks. Agreed. I'd say the only two of that group that they really tanked on were Watson and Bullocks. The jury is still out on Brown, but so far, not so good. Devery, Stinch, Porter, and Harper turned out to be beneficial for the Saints in one way or another.

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01-03-2013, 03:44 PM	#26
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? After he leaves New Orleans in February, we will be lucky to have a franchise. This City is going to show it's A$$ to him whenever the opportunity presents itself. And outside of anything illegal, I'm going to love every second of it. Screw that Ba$tard!!

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Originally Posted by Danno I think he'd like to see an incident free Superbowl and what better way to appease the natives than restoring that draft pick the week before the Superbowl. It won't keep some folks quiet, but it'll help. Are you bringing your new gun to the corral?

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Godhell you can kiss my arse. Keep your 2nd round black mail attempt. He wouldn't be giving us anything anyway, he would simply be screwing us out of other draft picks. No f$#&ing thank you.

01-03-2013, 05:46 PM	#30
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"? Only times the Saints hit on their 2nd rounder was Devery, Vilma and Shockey. Only including them two cause it took trading that pick to acquire them. As for Goddell, that POS can keep the 2nd rounder and shove it, I hope the city show how displeased we are with this ******** when he shows up for SuperBowl week

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