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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by FinSaint I think that with Franklin it was a case of playing out of position, since his natural position is a 3-4 NT and not a 4-3 DT. A 3-4 NT - which is what Bunkley was ...
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Re: Problems with Defensive Tackles
Originally Posted by FinSaint
Great post. Agree with virtually all of it.![]()
There were only 2 starters that graded in the top 100 in the league at their position, Bunkley (28th DT) and Jordan (66th DE). Hicks (29th DT) and Johnson (42ndDT), Casillas (59th OLB), Quddus (42nd S), Galette (19th DE), Wilson (33rd DE) graded out OK as reserves though. Every other starter was worse than the 100th ranked player at their position. Lofton (104th MLB), Vilma (100th OLB), Ellis (118th DT), Hawthorne (102nd OLB), Greer (118th CB), Robinson (193rd CB), Harper (167th S), Jenkins (168th S) I put that directly on Spags. |
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Re: Problems with Defensive Tackles
Originally Posted by Danno
I agree with this. I would have never thought Lofton would be ranked 104th. I do know that Harper and Jenkins graded out as the two absolute worst safeties in the league. In no way am I saying this is all their fault and they are the problem, but numbers are hard to argue with, and that is disheartening.
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Re: Problems with Defensive Tackles
Originally Posted by TreyThomas
The fact that basically this same group of players averaged middle of the pack in 3 years under Gregg Williams tells me it's not the players. No one can tell me there are 103 MLB's in this league better than Curtis Lofton. And there aren't 100 OLB's better than Vilma. There are NOT 117 CB's better than Jabari Greer.![]()
Obviously we cold use a few impact players along the front seven, but this roster isn't that damn bad. |
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Re: Problems with Defensive Tackles
Originally Posted by Danno
Pretty much says it all. Ellis' position, on the other hand, is believable. ![]()
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Re: Problems with Defensive Tackles
Originally Posted by Danno
193rd!! Wow, Robinson wouldn't make it as the 6th cornerback on the "average" team in the NFL.
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