The 'defense' blows it again

MSSaintsFan · 12-15-2002, 04:26 PM

Congrats to the Saints D for costing another game. This is getting old real fast.

saintz08 · 12-15-2002, 04:33 PM

The linebacker position is killing us this year ............

pakowitz · 12-15-2002, 04:52 PM

the linebackers, and the refs..

mudfoot · 12-15-2002, 05:23 PM

I am willing to bet that is more of the scheme than the players. Of course, on defense everything cannot be stopped but corrections should be made throughout the year. I have watched time and time again as simple screens and short passes are not defended due to the fact that people are out of position. Either Haz or Venturi is to blame for the way the defense is getting exploited. Yeah it was good to get run stuffing tackles but if they are not going to stuff the run we should have stayed with the old scheme. I think that they are not using the personnel to their strengths :casstet: :casstet: The offense has proven time and time again that they can move the ball at will so the defense should get tired of suffering the ridicule that they are suffering and go back to simplistic defenses that cover the basic areas on the field instead of this zone flooding crap that they like to do to much.

subguy · 12-15-2002, 06:56 PM

We should spend both of our first ,and our second and our third round picks on some D. Geesh, where to start. DB\'s can\'t guard tall receivers, Linebackers can\'t stop the run, and Defensive line.

daviddrake2 · 12-15-2002, 08:05 PM

I think the defense look very poor across the board today. Sure, there were occasions where they stuffed the run or defensed a pass, but by and large. They stunk up the place.

Culpepper pretty much has his way with the SAINTS all day long. We had everything form blown pass coverage to absolutely no pass coverage at times.

What was up with Dale Carter on the Vikes\' last touchdown? It appeared that he just decided that that play was a good time to take a break and stand around instead of making any attempt whatsoever to cover anyone. Did he honestly think that he was out there for no reason at all. Isn\'t it his job to at least try to cover someone, if not the other team\'s top threat -- Moss???

And how the hell did Culpepper drop the ball TWICE on the 2-point conversion and still stroll into the endzone almost untouched, up the middle I might add??? What the hell went so terribly wrong??? Why didn\'t we at least call a timeout to get everyone in place for such a crutial play?

Not that all of the blame goes to the D. I saw some pretty disturbing things happen on offense as well. Brooks still pays little attention to defenders that are bent on sacking him (he doesn\'t even seem to look to see who\'s coming), he still seems to be willing to do just about anything he can so as not to have to run the ball himself and he still insists on dropping back 6, 8,10 steps or more. He did make some nice throws at times, but he just did not come through when we needed him most, i.e. 3 field goals instead of TDs with at least one coming after starting 1st and goal.

I must say that I liked what I saw out of Jake Reed today. Stallworth and Horn also showed talent today and Duece did as much as possible to carry the SAINTS to victory.
But the D and too many mistakes on offense made that impossible.

I am not going to try to analyze what the coaching staff was thinking at times...

Anyway, I could go on, but it is just too unsettling.

[Edited on 16/12/2002 by daviddrake2]

daviddrake2 · 12-15-2002, 08:14 PM

Sorry for being so negative in my last post, but today\'s loss was just very frustrating. I don\'t know if it\'s just me, but I think that the SAINTS could have and should have easily wan that game.

I only hope that the team gets its act together before it\'s too late.

Go SAINTS!!!!!

David in Houston

JOESAM2002 · 12-15-2002, 08:20 PM

We better find a defense or our trip to the playoffs will be a short one. That is considering we make the playoffs. I do believe we will still make it but, how can a defense look so bad? :casstet:

billyh1026 · 12-15-2002, 08:54 PM

Playoffs??? Trust me...there is no sense making plans for the playoffs. Oh sure we\'ll get there. Hell we may even win a game. The thing we need to be doing is looking over the draftees for next year, firing the D coaches, and giving Brooks the boot. I\'m ticked.......

pakowitz · 12-15-2002, 10:38 PM

ur also on crack. give brooks the boot? what are u smokin?

12-15-2002, 04:26 PM	#1
MSSaintsFan Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 12	The 'defense' blows it again Congrats to the Saints D for costing another game. This is getting old real fast.
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12-15-2002, 04:33 PM	#2
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	The 'defense' blows it again The linebacker position is killing us this year ............
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12-15-2002, 04:52 PM	#3
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	The 'defense' blows it again the linebackers, and the refs..

12-15-2002, 05:23 PM	#4
mudfoot Rookie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 18	The 'defense' blows it again I am willing to bet that is more of the scheme than the players. Of course, on defense everything cannot be stopped but corrections should be made throughout the year. I have watched time and time again as simple screens and short passes are not defended due to the fact that people are out of position. Either Haz or Venturi is to blame for the way the defense is getting exploited. Yeah it was good to get run stuffing tackles but if they are not going to stuff the run we should have stayed with the old scheme. I think that they are not using the personnel to their strengths :casstet: :casstet: The offense has proven time and time again that they can move the ball at will so the defense should get tired of suffering the ridicule that they are suffering and go back to simplistic defenses that cover the basic areas on the field instead of this zone flooding crap that they like to do to much.
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12-15-2002, 06:56 PM	#5
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	The 'defense' blows it again We should spend both of our first ,and our second and our third round picks on some D. Geesh, where to start. DB\'s can\'t guard tall receivers, Linebackers can\'t stop the run, and Defensive line.

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12-15-2002, 08:05 PM	#6
daviddrake2 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston (formerly N.O.) Posts: 270	The 'defense' blows it again I think the defense look very poor across the board today. Sure, there were occasions where they stuffed the run or defensed a pass, but by and large. They stunk up the place. Culpepper pretty much has his way with the SAINTS all day long. We had everything form blown pass coverage to absolutely no pass coverage at times. What was up with Dale Carter on the Vikes\' last touchdown? It appeared that he just decided that that play was a good time to take a break and stand around instead of making any attempt whatsoever to cover anyone. Did he honestly think that he was out there for no reason at all. Isn\'t it his job to at least try to cover someone, if not the other team\'s top threat -- Moss??? And how the hell did Culpepper drop the ball TWICE on the 2-point conversion and still stroll into the endzone almost untouched, up the middle I might add??? What the hell went so terribly wrong??? Why didn\'t we at least call a timeout to get everyone in place for such a crutial play? Not that all of the blame goes to the D. I saw some pretty disturbing things happen on offense as well. Brooks still pays little attention to defenders that are bent on sacking him (he doesn\'t even seem to look to see who\'s coming), he still seems to be willing to do just about anything he can so as not to have to run the ball himself and he still insists on dropping back 6, 8,10 steps or more. He did make some nice throws at times, but he just did not come through when we needed him most, i.e. 3 field goals instead of TDs with at least one coming after starting 1st and goal. I must say that I liked what I saw out of Jake Reed today. Stallworth and Horn also showed talent today and Duece did as much as possible to carry the SAINTS to victory. But the D and too many mistakes on offense made that impossible. I am not going to try to analyze what the coaching staff was thinking at times... Anyway, I could go on, but it is just too unsettling. [Edited on 16/12/2002 by daviddrake2]
	Go SAINTS!!!!! David in Houston

12-15-2002, 08:14 PM	#7
daviddrake2 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston (formerly N.O.) Posts: 270	The 'defense' blows it again Sorry for being so negative in my last post, but today\'s loss was just very frustrating. I don\'t know if it\'s just me, but I think that the SAINTS could have and should have easily wan that game. I only hope that the team gets its act together before it\'s too late. Go SAINTS!!!!! David in Houston

12-15-2002, 08:20 PM	#8
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	The 'defense' blows it again We better find a defense or our trip to the playoffs will be a short one. That is considering we make the playoffs. I do believe we will still make it but, how can a defense look so bad? :casstet:

12-15-2002, 08:54 PM	#9
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	The 'defense' blows it again Playoffs??? Trust me...there is no sense making plans for the playoffs. Oh sure we\'ll get there. Hell we may even win a game. The thing we need to be doing is looking over the draftees for next year, firing the D coaches, and giving Brooks the boot. I\'m ticked.......
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213

12-15-2002, 10:38 PM	#10
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	The 'defense' blows it again ur also on crack. give brooks the boot? what are u smokin?