Best Saints WR poll

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-28-2004, 02:27 PM

i find it absolutely hilarious that AB can throw a few bad passes or fumble and we are talking about replacing him with guys that have never even been starters,

I find it hilarious too.

but horn has an off year followed by a pretty ugly looking preseason (pathon looked better than joe in the chigaco game as far as i\'m concerned) and the mere mention that maybe he\'s over the hill is considered ludacris

Off year is a relative term. He still had more catches last year than Pathon and Stallworth combined. Same with touchdowns and nearly matched the two of them with yards. Also Joe had a career high in TDs with 10.

He didn\'t get the 1300+ yards as he did in the three years before that. But he\'s still a really effective receiver.

AB has put up huge numbers every year but you guys find flaws,

3 three year sequence in the history of the franchise. All folks can nitpick is about minor things: he fumbles. He smiles too much. He should have sat down at the end of the 2002 season when he was hurt. He isn\'t consistent.

I find much more consistency with 3000+ yards, 20+ TD, fewer INTs every year, and improving accuracy and QB rating than anything else.

Worse than finding flaws, the continued call to get rid of him. Crazy man. Crazy.

horn didn\'t put up the numbers last year and was a distraction followed up by no signs of improvement this preseason but you guys stand by him
you guys need to take off the blinders

Horn has been the Saints #1 receiver going on his 4th year. No one else has proven that they can do the job. Of course I\'m going to stand by him.

SFIAH

WhoDat · 08-28-2004, 03:42 PM

Joe Horn has gone to the Pro Bowl in 3 of 4?? seasons with the Saints. Last year, in an injury filled season, he had the most TDs of his career and just shy of 1000 yards. Yeah, he\'s terrible.

Honestly I can\'t understand why we keep having this discussion. Stallworth and Pathon have COMBINED for fewer catches and yards over Horn\'s last two season (and last year was an \"off\" year for Horn).

Joe Horn is the ONLY CONSISTENT star/performer on this team other than Deuce. Period. Bottom line: until another receiver PROVES on the field that he is even in the same arena as Horn, Horn is the best, bar none.

WhoDat · 08-28-2004, 03:48 PM

Just so that we\'re crystal clear, consider...

Over the last 4 seasons Joe Horn has AVERAGED 86 catches for 1223 yards and 9 TDs a season and been to the Pro Bowl 3 times. Other than Moss, Harrison, and TO, I don\'t know if you can find ANY other WR in the NFL with those kinds of numbers over the last FOUR seasons. Maybe Holt? You\'re crazy if you think there is a better WR on this team than Joe Horn. Again, Horn is the best WR we\'ve got by far until any player proves otherwise.

rusta · 08-29-2004, 06:25 PM

two years ago I would agree that horn was our best guy, but last year horn showed some age

keep throwing his numbers up from 4 years ago to prove your point if you want but I\'m telling you horn is on his way down the hill, compare him to our other WR\'s if you want, one of which is never on the field due to injury and the other doesn\'t get half the looks that horn gets, if he got the looks i think you might be surprised at what he can do

horn\'s receptions and yards are down in the last year and while he had a career record in TD\'s 4 of them came in that ridiculous game against the NYG, couple that with the \'dropsies\' he\'s developed last year and this preseason and his on and off field banter/distractions (we\'re going 16-0 is just stupid talk), plus he ain\'t no spring chicken

I\'m not the type to drive the car until the tank is bone dry, when i\'m close to empty i go to the gas station

08-28-2004, 02:27 PM	#11
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Best Saints WR poll i find it absolutely hilarious that AB can throw a few bad passes or fumble and we are talking about replacing him with guys that have never even been starters, I find it hilarious too. but horn has an off year followed by a pretty ugly looking preseason (pathon looked better than joe in the chigaco game as far as i\'m concerned) and the mere mention that maybe he\'s over the hill is considered ludacris Off year is a relative term. He still had more catches last year than Pathon and Stallworth combined. Same with touchdowns and nearly matched the two of them with yards. Also Joe had a career high in TDs with 10. He didn\'t get the 1300+ yards as he did in the three years before that. But he\'s still a really effective receiver. AB has put up huge numbers every year but you guys find flaws, 3 three year sequence in the history of the franchise. All folks can nitpick is about minor things: he fumbles. He smiles too much. He should have sat down at the end of the 2002 season when he was hurt. He isn\'t consistent. I find much more consistency with 3000+ yards, 20+ TD, fewer INTs every year, and improving accuracy and QB rating than anything else. Worse than finding flaws, the continued call to get rid of him. Crazy man. Crazy. horn didn\'t put up the numbers last year and was a distraction followed up by no signs of improvement this preseason but you guys stand by him you guys need to take off the blinders Horn has been the Saints #1 receiver going on his 4th year. No one else has proven that they can do the job. Of course I\'m going to stand by him. SFIAH
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08-28-2004, 03:42 PM	#12
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Best Saints WR poll Joe Horn has gone to the Pro Bowl in 3 of 4?? seasons with the Saints. Last year, in an injury filled season, he had the most TDs of his career and just shy of 1000 yards. Yeah, he\'s terrible. Honestly I can\'t understand why we keep having this discussion. Stallworth and Pathon have COMBINED for fewer catches and yards over Horn\'s last two season (and last year was an \"off\" year for Horn). Joe Horn is the ONLY CONSISTENT star/performer on this team other than Deuce. Period. Bottom line: until another receiver PROVES on the field that he is even in the same arena as Horn, Horn is the best, bar none.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

08-28-2004, 03:48 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Best Saints WR poll Just so that we\'re crystal clear, consider... Over the last 4 seasons Joe Horn has AVERAGED 86 catches for 1223 yards and 9 TDs a season and been to the Pro Bowl 3 times. Other than Moss, Harrison, and TO, I don\'t know if you can find ANY other WR in the NFL with those kinds of numbers over the last FOUR seasons. Maybe Holt? You\'re crazy if you think there is a better WR on this team than Joe Horn. Again, Horn is the best WR we\'ve got by far until any player proves otherwise.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

08-29-2004, 06:25 PM	#14
rusta 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 361	Best Saints WR poll two years ago I would agree that horn was our best guy, but last year horn showed some age keep throwing his numbers up from 4 years ago to prove your point if you want but I\'m telling you horn is on his way down the hill, compare him to our other WR\'s if you want, one of which is never on the field due to injury and the other doesn\'t get half the looks that horn gets, if he got the looks i think you might be surprised at what he can do horn\'s receptions and yards are down in the last year and while he had a career record in TD\'s 4 of them came in that ridiculous game against the NYG, couple that with the \'dropsies\' he\'s developed last year and this preseason and his on and off field banter/distractions (we\'re going 16-0 is just stupid talk), plus he ain\'t no spring chicken I\'m not the type to drive the car until the tank is bone dry, when i\'m close to empty i go to the gas station
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