Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE?

SloMotion · 01-25-2013, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

So, the question remains then: why did they (SP at the forefront) hire Spags in the first place if his system was so wrong for the players the Saints had/have?!

Was Spags himself another square peg the organization tried to force into a round hole - not letting him play to his strengths, but forcing him to adapt to the situation and become something he is not?!

I just think that a year away from the team gave SP a new perspective and the wheels started turning on a more dynamic plan to put the Saints back to their former status & take advantage of Brees' remaining years.

Who knows what would have happened had SP not been suspended? Perhaps the Saints would have had a decent season & stayed with Spags and the 4-3. As it is, I think SP figured the Saints' defense pretty much hit rock bottom, so with nowhere to go but up, it's the perfect time to try something new.

Drastic times call for drastic measures. I'm glad SP has the cajones to make such moves and I'm also glad Loomis/Benson have the faith & confidence in their H/C to make such a move.

It's what I like about the Saints, they don't f#ck around, eh?

hagan714 · 01-25-2013, 09:14 AM

ok i see wilson as our pass rushing olb

SmashMouth · 01-25-2013, 02:33 PM

There are quite a few tweeners entering the draft. Perhaps we can get a few of them, maybe even as UDFA, to replace our ineffective linebackers.

jeanpierre · 01-26-2013, 02:31 AM

LDE Cam Jordan
NT Akiem Hicks
RDE Broderick Bunkley

MIKE Curtis Lofton
SAM David Hawthorne
WILL Will Herring
JACK Martez Wilson

LCB Jabari Greer
SS Roman Harper
FS Malcolm Jenkins
RCB Patrick Robinson

Vilma, Smith...Out

Danno · 01-26-2013, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

LDE Cam Jordan
NT Akiem Hicks
RDE Broderick Bunkley

MIKE Curtis Lofton
SAM David Hawthorne
WILL Will Herring
JACK Martez Wilson

LCB Jabari Greer
SS Roman Harper
FS Malcolm Jenkins
RCB Patrick Robinson

Vilma, Smith...Out

Ilike it, but I'd move Cam to RDE, Bunkley to NT and Hicks to LDE.

I like Tez at JACK for now, but I see him moving inside eventually when we sign/draft that edge rusher.

I think we'll end up putting Lofton and Tez in the middle, with Hawthorn and a player TBD on the outside.

I'm not sure there's an ideal spot for Junior in this scheme, except as a situational OLB with Tez on the other side in our 3-4 pass package.

jeanpierre · 01-26-2013, 11:44 AM

You don't think Martez has the speed to burn from the edge?

I agree he needs to learn some technique, but he's got to see the field for that...

I'd love to see Junior Galette adapt; just don't think he's got the skill set to be an OLB...

Danno · 01-26-2013, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You don't think Martez has the speed to burn from the edge?

I agree he needs to learn some technique, but he's got to see the field for that...

I'd love to see Junior Galette adapt; just don't think he's got the skill set to be an OLB...

From the article I read on Bum Phillips defense Martez is a perfect player (on paper) for that stong side inside linebacker. He could still blitz from the position and with his straightline speed he'd be a monster there.

I'm not sure Martez is best suited for the Jack. He could certainly play it but I'm not sold that he has that elite agility to be able to turn the corner but his straightline speed is freakinsh. Inside, he'd be a beast instantly.

FinSaint · 01-26-2013, 12:24 PM

I wonder if they'd consider giving Chamberlain a shot at the SS position, since that is the position under which he entered the draft and was picked by the Rams?!

Or maybe he could fit the other ILB position?!

hagan714 · 01-26-2013, 12:31 PM

interesting point fin. chamberlin does open some options in the middle plus he has solid ball skills that the others do lack.

iceshack149 · 01-26-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Ilike it, but I'd move Cam to RDE, Bunkley to NT and Hicks to LDE.

I like Tez at JACK for now, but I see him moving inside eventually when we sign/draft that edge rusher.

I think we'll end up putting Lofton and Tez in the middle, with Hawthorn and a player TBD on the outside.

I'm not sure there's an ideal spot for Junior in this scheme, except as a situational OLB with Tez on the other side in our 3-4 pass package.

I think that Galette would be a good-great OLB. He seems more fit as an OLB than he does a DE.

01-25-2013, 08:09 AM	#31
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? Originally Posted by FinSaint So, the question remains then: why did they (SP at the forefront) hire Spags in the first place if his system was so wrong for the players the Saints had/have?! Was Spags himself another square peg the organization tried to force into a round hole - not letting him play to his strengths, but forcing him to adapt to the situation and become something he is not?! I just think that a year away from the team gave SP a new perspective and the wheels started turning on a more dynamic plan to put the Saints back to their former status & take advantage of Brees' remaining years. Who knows what would have happened had SP not been suspended? Perhaps the Saints would have had a decent season & stayed with Spags and the 4-3. As it is, I think SP figured the Saints' defense pretty much hit rock bottom, so with nowhere to go but up, it's the perfect time to try something new. Drastic times call for drastic measures. I'm glad SP has the cajones to make such moves and I'm also glad Loomis/Benson have the faith & confidence in their H/C to make such a move. It's what I like about the Saints, they don't f#ck around, eh?

01-25-2013, 09:14 AM	#32
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? Originally Posted by jeanpierre LDE Cam Jordan NT Akiem Hicks RDE Broderick Bunkley MIKE Curtis Lofton SAM David Hawthorne WILL Will Herring JACK Martez Wilson LCB Jabari Greer SS Roman Harper FS Malcolm Jenkins RCB Patrick Robinson Vilma, Smith...Out Ilike it, but I'd move Cam to RDE, Bunkley to NT and Hicks to LDE. I like Tez at JACK for now, but I see him moving inside eventually when we sign/draft that edge rusher. I think we'll end up putting Lofton and Tez in the middle, with Hawthorn and a player TBD on the outside. I'm not sure there's an ideal spot for Junior in this scheme, except as a situational OLB with Tez on the other side in our 3-4 pass package.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? You don't think Martez has the speed to burn from the edge? I agree he needs to learn some technique, but he's got to see the field for that... I'd love to see Junior Galette adapt; just don't think he's got the skill set to be an OLB...

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? Originally Posted by jeanpierre You don't think Martez has the speed to burn from the edge? I agree he needs to learn some technique, but he's got to see the field for that... I'd love to see Junior Galette adapt; just don't think he's got the skill set to be an OLB... From the article I read on Bum Phillips defense Martez is a perfect player (on paper) for that stong side inside linebacker. He could still blitz from the position and with his straightline speed he'd be a monster there. I'm not sure Martez is best suited for the Jack. He could certainly play it but I'm not sold that he has that elite agility to be able to turn the corner but his straightline speed is freakinsh. Inside, he'd be a beast instantly.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? I wonder if they'd consider giving Chamberlain a shot at the SS position, since that is the position under which he entered the draft and was picked by the Rams?! Or maybe he could fit the other ILB position?!

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? interesting point fin. chamberlin does open some options in the middle plus he has solid ball skills that the others do lack.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Martez Wilson....LB'er or DE? Originally Posted by Danno Ilike it, but I'd move Cam to RDE, Bunkley to NT and Hicks to LDE. I like Tez at JACK for now, but I see him moving inside eventually when we sign/draft that edge rusher. I think we'll end up putting Lofton and Tez in the middle, with Hawthorn and a player TBD on the outside. I'm not sure there's an ideal spot for Junior in this scheme, except as a situational OLB with Tez on the other side in our 3-4 pass package. I think that Galette would be a good-great OLB. He seems more fit as an OLB than he does a DE.

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