Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:20 AM

The 46, Psycho, and Cloud.

Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts: The 46, Psycho, and Cloud | The DC Times

More on Ryan's Zone Blitz's and how they are attacked.

Rob Ryan's Zone Blitzes: How Teams Attack Fire Zones and How Dallas Can Respond | The DC Times

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:32 AM

Another good read:

Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing

Rob Ryan has a bit of a reputation for having a high-risk, high-reward defense. There are many versions of the 3-4 defense and to compare and contrast Wade Phillips' 3-4 to Rob Ryan's 3-4 would take quite a while. They utilize the same personnel in the base defense, but there are an infinite number of ways to apply that defense. And make no mistake, Ryan does it differently than Phillips.

The object of the game for the defense is 2-fold. 1) don't allow points (this is rather obvious) and 2) to cause game-changing plays (takeaways, sacks, and the occasional big hit). Both are important and just about all championship caliber defenses can excel in both categories.

As we look at the first year under Rob Ryan (and maybe the only year), we see the Cowboys are allowing 20.2 points per game rather than the 27.3 they allowed in 2010. We also see that after years of not generating takeaways, the Cowboys already have 19 which rank them only 2 takeaways short of the league lead. In 2008 and 2009, the Cowboys had but 22 and 21 takeaways for the entire season.

Sound familiar, anyone???

TheOak · 02-09-2013, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Another good read:

Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing

Sound familiar, anyone???

Not with out Sharper.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Not with out Sharper.

What about with Ed Reed?

TheOak · 02-09-2013, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

What about with Ed Reed?

Some people don't want to make the cuts necessary to be able to afford Reed.

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Some people don't want to make the cuts necessary to be able to afford Reed.

Thankfully some people aren't making those decisions.

Marlboro Man · 02-09-2013, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Another good read:

Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing

Sound familiar, anyone???

Sure does. And this does too "Rob Ryan has a bit of a reputation for having a high-risk, high-reward defense."

Danno · 02-09-2013, 11:28 AM

Aren't all attacking defenses high-risk high-reward?

SmashMouth · 02-09-2013, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Aren't all attacking defenses high-risk high-reward?

Is that commentary on the prevent defense?

lumm0x · 02-09-2013, 11:42 AM

Great links Saintsfan1976. I have a "Coaching the 46 Defense" book by Rex Ryan and it includes alot of input from Rob Ryan and Buddy Ryan.

Coaching Football's 46 Defense (The Art & Science of Coaching Series): Rex Ryan, Jeff Walker: 9781585182343: Amazon.com: Books

It really breaks down in depth the responsibilities of each position on the defense, how each player runs each defensive call and the pre and post snap reads each player must make. It also explains the skill set required by each player.

I think we have a few in place that will fit well. Lofton, Jordan and Jenkins I think fit great. We have a few edge rushers than can fill the less exotic roles and our corners may be enough to deal with things. Our big issues are NT, depth overall on the d-line and the second safety, second ILB roles.

I love the x's and o's of defenses.

02-09-2013, 10:20 AM	#1
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02-09-2013, 10:32 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Another good read: Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing Rob Ryan has a bit of a reputation for having a high-risk, high-reward defense. There are many versions of the 3-4 defense and to compare and contrast Wade Phillips' 3-4 to Rob Ryan's 3-4 would take quite a while. They utilize the same personnel in the base defense, but there are an infinite number of ways to apply that defense. And make no mistake, Ryan does it differently than Phillips. The object of the game for the defense is 2-fold. 1) don't allow points (this is rather obvious) and 2) to cause game-changing plays (takeaways, sacks, and the occasional big hit). Both are important and just about all championship caliber defenses can excel in both categories. As we look at the first year under Rob Ryan (and maybe the only year), we see the Cowboys are allowing 20.2 points per game rather than the 27.3 they allowed in 2010. We also see that after years of not generating takeaways, the Cowboys already have 19 which rank them only 2 takeaways short of the league lead. In 2008 and 2009, the Cowboys had but 22 and 21 takeaways for the entire season. Sound familiar, anyone???

02-09-2013, 10:41 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Another good read: Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing Sound familiar, anyone??? Not with out Sharper.

02-09-2013, 10:44 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Originally Posted by TheOak Not with out Sharper. What about with Ed Reed?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 What about with Ed Reed? Some people don't want to make the cuts necessary to be able to afford Reed.

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02-09-2013, 10:46 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Originally Posted by TheOak Some people don't want to make the cuts necessary to be able to afford Reed. Thankfully some people aren't making those decisions. TheOak likes this.

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Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Another good read: Bob's Blog - Live from Lewisville: X's and O's Breakdown - Fire Zone Blitzing Sound familiar, anyone??? Sure does. And this does too "Rob Ryan has a bit of a reputation for having a high-risk, high-reward defense."

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Originally Posted by Danno Aren't all attacking defenses high-risk high-reward? Is that commentary on the prevent defense?

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Rob Ryan's Defensive Fronts Great links Saintsfan1976. I have a "Coaching the 46 Defense" book by Rex Ryan and it includes alot of input from Rob Ryan and Buddy Ryan. Coaching Football's 46 Defense (The Art & Science of Coaching Series): Rex Ryan, Jeff Walker: 9781585182343: Amazon.com: Books Coaching Football's 46 Defense (The Art & Science of Coaching Series): Rex Ryan, Jeff Walker: 9781585182343: Amazon.com: Books It really breaks down in depth the responsibilities of each position on the defense, how each player runs each defensive call and the pre and post snap reads each player must make. It also explains the skill set required by each player. I think we have a few in place that will fit well. Lofton, Jordan and Jenkins I think fit great. We have a few edge rushers than can fill the less exotic roles and our corners may be enough to deal with things. Our big issues are NT, depth overall on the d-line and the second safety, second ILB roles. I love the x's and o's of defenses.

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