What did Ryan learn in Dallas?

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham...

The installation experience.

Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.

TheOak · 02-11-2013, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.

I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2013, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

That reminds me of 2007/08 when folks were ready to jettison Sean Payton.

Ryan was a damn good DC in Dallas IMO. He was made the scapegoat by a team that, let's face it, won't be accused of making the most rational decisions.

You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one.

Look all the things that the media is bagging on Ryan for is exactly what his players - his ALPHA MALE players - love and revel about him.

Perfection? No. But I do expect to see a dramatic improvement.

Danno · 02-11-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one..

Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2013, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"?

papz · 02-11-2013, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"?

Exactly how I would have described him. We loved that pressure type defense. We craved that pressure type defense. We missed that pressure type defense. We just need it tweaked a little so we aren't as wreckless as we were under Williams.

With that said, even though we were wreckless and played poorly towards the end of Williams' tenure, had we tackled better... the results would have been much better. It wasn't really as bad as it looked had players just finished their job.

02-09-2013, 09:48 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by TheOak So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham... The installation experience. Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it. I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself. CharityMike likes this.

02-11-2013, 07:36 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it. I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself. I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning. Someone proven. I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

02-11-2013, 08:24 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by TheOak I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning. Someone proven. I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton. That reminds me of 2007/08 when folks were ready to jettison Sean Payton. Ryan was a damn good DC in Dallas IMO. He was made the scapegoat by a team that, let's face it, won't be accused of making the most rational decisions. You wanted an installer - you've got one. You wanted aggressive - you've got one. Look all the things that the media is bagging on Ryan for is exactly what his players - his ALPHA MALE players - love and revel about him. Perfection? No. But I do expect to see a dramatic improvement. UK_WhoDat, Danno and Jamessr like this.

02-11-2013, 08:36 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You wanted an installer - you've got one. You wanted aggressive - you've got one.. Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

02-11-2013, 08:41 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by Danno Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go. Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"?

02-11-2013, 08:52 AM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"? Exactly how I would have described him. We loved that pressure type defense. We craved that pressure type defense. We missed that pressure type defense. We just need it tweaked a little so we aren't as wreckless as we were under Williams. With that said, even though we were wreckless and played poorly towards the end of Williams' tenure, had we tackled better... the results would have been much better. It wasn't really as bad as it looked had players just finished their job.

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