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Old 02-09-2013, 09:21 AM   #1
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What did Ryan learn in Dallas?

Something we're likely to see him do in New Orleans.


Rob Ryan thinks he tried to install too much defense, too quickly | ProFootballTalk

Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan blames himself for some of the struggles of the Dallas defense last season, saying that when he got to work after the lockout, he threw the whole defense at his team at once, instead of giving his players the time to slowly pick up the playbook.

Ryan, who was hired by the Cowboys last year, told Ian Rapoport of NFL.com that if he had it to do all over again, he’d just introduce basic concepts at first and expand as the season went on.

“When we look back at ourselves, reevaluate, I think I started too fast,” Ryan said. “I put in the accelerated program without English 101, which I always struggled with. You have to have a foundation. . . . It’s like getting a tutor. My kid gets a tutor, he gets 90s in math. He doesn’t? Forties. We need 90s or 100s.”

The Cowboys’ defense got better with the arrival of Ryan last season, and he’s confident that the defense will continue to improve with an offseason of installing the defense the way he wants.

“It just takes time to re-teach everything, get the fundamentals,” Ryan said. “We’re going to teach at a slower pace so we can actually learn. We tried to slow it down [in 2011], and it was a little tough for us. I got to look in the mirror, and that’s on me. I’m a better teacher than that. We come back to square one, and it’s gonna be great.”
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So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham...

The installation experience.
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So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham...

The installation experience.
Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.
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Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.

I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.
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I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.
That reminds me of 2007/08 when folks were ready to jettison Sean Payton.

Ryan was a damn good DC in Dallas IMO. He was made the scapegoat by a team that, let's face it, won't be accused of making the most rational decisions.

You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one.

Look all the things that the media is bagging on Ryan for is exactly what his players - his ALPHA MALE players - love and revel about him.

Perfection? No. But I do expect to see a dramatic improvement.
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Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas?

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You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one..
Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.
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Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas?

Wade Phillips, now considered a real good DC, started somewhere too. Just how long did it take for him to excel?
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Wade Phillips, now considered a real good DC, started somewhere too. Just how long did it take for him to excel?
Speaking of Mr. Wade, where in the hell did his defense go the last few weeks of regular season and into the playoffs? Geez...it got ugly.
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welcome to the middle of the road defense at best. how long did we sign a contract for with robbie boy?
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