New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan

02-09-2013, 09:16 PM

Vilma claims that his problems in NY were about his knee and not the 3-4.

lumm0x · 02-09-2013, 10:22 PM

I'd still like to see us retain Vilma for a few reasons (although cut and then re-signed for minimum or damn near). He is a vocal leader of our defense and players respect him. He is a good tackler and instinctive football player. He needs protection that the 3-4 doesn't offer but I think we can use him in an ILB role where he subs in and out with a younger player. He isn't terrible in coverage and he could be that QB/RB spy player or on overload blitz packages.

He was in his prime in NY and asked to be the work horse of that defense and he just isn't good enough at getting off a block as he needs to be for a 3-4 to fit him. Lofton would be that guy here and hopefully free up Vilma to more advantageous situations.

|Mitch| · 02-09-2013, 10:40 PM

Vilma has lost a step, he doesn't possess the speed he once had...

He wasn't big enough to handle the 3-4 with the Jets in his prime, what makes you think he can now?

Lofton will have his own responsibilities, Hawthorne would be a better fit next to Lofton in his natural ILB position...

Crusader · 02-10-2013, 02:24 AM

I'm still not sold on Ryan but if the players like him thats whats most important. But if I don't misremember they were really happy to get Spags too...

FinSaint · 02-10-2013, 06:37 AM

What, no comment from Shanle?!

halloween 65 · 02-10-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

What, no comment from Shanle?!

Funny you bring him up, he has the size to play inside, not sure about the speed though. I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft or pick up one in FA. I like Lofton but I'm unsure how he does in Ryans scheme?

Ashley · 02-10-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Luda34

can't wait for season to start and to see what we do on defense

That's what we all said last year

Seer1 · 02-10-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

That's what we all said last year

Nope, I'm pretty sure we all said that we couldn't wait for the season to start and see what we don't do on defense....

hagan714 · 02-10-2013, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Luda34

can't wait for season to start and to see what we do on defense

at best robbie boy will ever get you to is the middle of the pack.

Seer1 · 02-10-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

at best robbie boy will ever get you to is the middle of the pack.

I'd take that in a heartbeat.

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02-09-2013, 10:22 PM	#12
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan I'd still like to see us retain Vilma for a few reasons (although cut and then re-signed for minimum or damn near). He is a vocal leader of our defense and players respect him. He is a good tackler and instinctive football player. He needs protection that the 3-4 doesn't offer but I think we can use him in an ILB role where he subs in and out with a younger player. He isn't terrible in coverage and he could be that QB/RB spy player or on overload blitz packages. He was in his prime in NY and asked to be the work horse of that defense and he just isn't good enough at getting off a block as he needs to be for a 3-4 to fit him. Lofton would be that guy here and hopefully free up Vilma to more advantageous situations. saintsfan1976, ClintSaints and Wilde18 like this.

02-09-2013, 10:40 PM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Vilma has lost a step, he doesn't possess the speed he once had... He wasn't big enough to handle the 3-4 with the Jets in his prime, what makes you think he can now? Lofton will have his own responsibilities, Hawthorne would be a better fit next to Lofton in his natural ILB position... Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-10-2013, 02:24 AM	#14
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan I'm still not sold on Ryan but if the players like him thats whats most important. But if I don't misremember they were really happy to get Spags too... ClintSaints likes this.

02-10-2013, 06:37 AM	#15
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02-10-2013, 09:11 AM	#16
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Originally Posted by FinSaint What, no comment from Shanle?! Funny you bring him up, he has the size to play inside, not sure about the speed though. I would like to draft at least 1 inside lb. in the draft or pick up one in FA. I like Lofton but I'm unsure how he does in Ryans scheme?

02-10-2013, 12:22 PM	#17
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Luda34 can't wait for season to start and to see what we do on defense That's what we all said last year

02-10-2013, 12:30 PM	#18
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Ashley That's what we all said last year Nope, I'm pretty sure we all said that we couldn't wait for the season to start and see what we don't do on defense....

02-10-2013, 12:34 PM	#19
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Luda34 can't wait for season to start and to see what we do on defense at best robbie boy will ever get you to is the middle of the pack.

02-10-2013, 12:40 PM	#20
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints players applaud the hiring of Rob Ryan Originally Posted by hagan714 at best robbie boy will ever get you to is the middle of the pack. I'd take that in a heartbeat. dizzle88 and ClintSaints like this.

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