Holder: Saints Cut Dave Thomas, Johnny Patrick

K Major · 02-20-2013, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He did not play zone 100% of the time. You can go back and look at any coverage he was in, and see him get blown up. As I said in another post, I think teams were able to look at his film after his second season (because that was his first significant playing time) and exploit his weaknesses. Among other things, he bites on the hitch and go with tremendous regularity. He is also afraid to come up and hit somebody, which teams took advantage of with a lot of shorter routes, allowing their receivers to pile up the "YAC".

I really hope you and Danno are right about the scheme making a difference, but I just don't see how we can pawn off that level of suckage on just the scheme.

Rob Ryan will evaluate PRob much like he did Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick at corner position in Dallas... unfortunately for them they simply weren't good enough so they were introduced to the bench and enter F/A Brandon Carr and draft pick Mo Claiborne. At some point, you can't keep shaking fingers on coaches, schemes or lack of an effective pass rush on his inability to perform. You either can play the position or you can't.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Holder: Saints Cut Dave Thomas, Johnny Patrick Originally Posted by burningmetal He did not play zone 100% of the time. You can go back and look at any coverage he was in, and see him get blown up. As I said in another post, I think teams were able to look at his film after his second season (because that was his first significant playing time) and exploit his weaknesses. Among other things, he bites on the hitch and go with tremendous regularity. He is also afraid to come up and hit somebody, which teams took advantage of with a lot of shorter routes, allowing their receivers to pile up the "YAC". I really hope you and Danno are right about the scheme making a difference, but I just don't see how we can pawn off that level of suckage on just the scheme. Rob Ryan will evaluate PRob much like he did Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick at corner position in Dallas... unfortunately for them they simply weren't good enough so they were introduced to the bench and enter F/A Brandon Carr and draft pick Mo Claiborne. At some point, you can't keep shaking fingers on coaches, schemes or lack of an effective pass rush on his inability to perform. You either can play the position or you can't. halloween 65 and burningmetal like this.

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