Front seven Or Secondary?

halloween 65 · 02-20-2013, 02:46 PM

Front 7, without collapsing the pocket and pressure on a average qb. it makes all of them look like Brees. I want a true nose-tackle 1st then a thumper lb. on the inside. Followed by getting rid Jenkins and either Quaddus in or a veteran safety to teach Quaddus. I believe still with a little more time he would be great.

blackangold · 02-20-2013, 04:06 PM

to be honest it does not matter who we take in the first round.... we have yet to take an impact player in the first round whom made drastic improvements to our team. For the most part the first round of the draft has been nothing more than a money waster and I doubt this is the year that changes.

ChrisXVI · 02-20-2013, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

to be honest it does not matter who we take in the first round.... we have yet to take an impact player in the first round whom made drastic improvements to our team. For the most part the first round of the draft has been nothing more than a money waster and I doubt this is the year that changes.

I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal.

alleycat_126 · 02-21-2013, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal.

Yes Jordan has found his way, but Wilson has not..... This switch is much less for Jordan ( who should have no problem switching to 3-4 and still being as dominant) as it is for Wilson who had no place in the zone scheme because he doesn't weigh enough to come in and stop the run, nor should he be asked to as a DE, in the 3-4 he should move back to a more natural OLB position and get on the field more thus putting him in position to make plays something IMO he has shown he can do.... The DE that covers wilson side is gonna have to be a massive and shifty.... DE is probably gonna be your pick in the first...... And if it were me it wouldn't be at 15 unless you got a shot at Dion Jordan, or Jesse Williams of Alabama.....

blackangold · 02-21-2013, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal.

your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo.

Danno · 02-21-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo.

Ingram was the 28th pick (5 picks from being a 2nd rounder), Jordan was 24th

NuNu318 · 02-21-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo.

Jordan was picked 24th in the 1st rd. We traded up with the Pats to pick Ingram 28th.

Crusader · 02-20-2013, 05:00 PM

I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot.

Seer1 · 02-20-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot.

As needy as we are in some areas, it sure seems like BPA in those positions makes more sense.

Danno · 02-20-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot.

For me, to be more specific, I prefer BPA except at positions of strength. If the BPA is a QB in round 1, 3 and 4 I hope we're not stupid enough to draft 3 QB's.

02-20-2013, 02:46 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Front 7, without collapsing the pocket and pressure on a average qb. it makes all of them look like Brees. I want a true nose-tackle 1st then a thumper lb. on the inside. Followed by getting rid Jenkins and either Quaddus in or a veteran safety to teach Quaddus. I believe still with a little more time he would be great.

02-20-2013, 04:06 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? to be honest it does not matter who we take in the first round.... we have yet to take an impact player in the first round whom made drastic improvements to our team. For the most part the first round of the draft has been nothing more than a money waster and I doubt this is the year that changes.

02-20-2013, 04:14 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by blackangold to be honest it does not matter who we take in the first round.... we have yet to take an impact player in the first round whom made drastic improvements to our team. For the most part the first round of the draft has been nothing more than a money waster and I doubt this is the year that changes. I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal.

02-21-2013, 01:55 AM	#4
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal. Yes Jordan has found his way, but Wilson has not..... This switch is much less for Jordan ( who should have no problem switching to 3-4 and still being as dominant) as it is for Wilson who had no place in the zone scheme because he doesn't weigh enough to come in and stop the run, nor should he be asked to as a DE, in the 3-4 he should move back to a more natural OLB position and get on the field more thus putting him in position to make plays something IMO he has shown he can do.... The DE that covers wilson side is gonna have to be a massive and shifty.... DE is probably gonna be your pick in the first...... And if it were me it wouldn't be at 15 unless you got a shot at Dion Jordan, or Jesse Williams of Alabama.....

02-21-2013, 02:30 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I agree that we make terrible picks in the first round... HOWEVER, Cameron Jordan has been a terrific draft pick. He's been one of the highest rated run-stopping DE's and now that we're switching back to his more natural 3-4 scheme he's only going to flourish. We drafted him and made him a DE in our 4-3 and though he's been great, his 1st round pick status was based on playing in a 3-4 at Cal. your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo.

02-21-2013, 02:31 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by blackangold your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo. Ingram was the 28th pick (5 picks from being a 2nd rounder), Jordan was 24th

02-21-2013, 02:41 PM	#7
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by blackangold your right ... I always forget about him. Although he was not the first pick for us he has done well for being a first rounder. The Ingram pick ahead of him however is just another example of wasted first picks imo. Jordan was picked 24th in the 1st rd. We traded up with the Pats to pick Ingram 28th.

02-20-2013, 05:00 PM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,050	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot.

02-20-2013, 05:45 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by Crusader I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot. As needy as we are in some areas, it sure seems like BPA in those positions makes more sense.

02-20-2013, 06:15 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Front seven Or Secondary? Originally Posted by Crusader I always prefer BPA regardless if it was an OT, DT, S, LB, WR or whatnot. For me, to be more specific, I prefer BPA except at positions of strength. If the BPA is a QB in round 1, 3 and 4 I hope we're not stupid enough to draft 3 QB's.

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