Cards to pursue Ivory?

NuNu318 · 02-27-2013, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

Saints wouldn't be sending him anywhere. He is an unrestricted FA.

Actually he's a RFA....which means we would probably get some kind of compensation if he does sign an offer sheet from another team and we don't match it.

RockyMountainSaint · 02-27-2013, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by NuNu318

Actually he's a RFA....which means we would probably get some kind of compensation if he does sign an offer sheet from another team and we don't match it.

The problem is that he was an undrafted FA.

Zero compensation.

Danno · 02-27-2013, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The problem is that he was an undrafted FA.

Zero compensation.

True, sort of.

We can tender him a 2nd rounder at 2 million, but if no one bites he costs us 2 million.

Our best bet is a ROFR tender at about 1.5 million, which means we can just match any offer he gets. If its too steep, we let him walk, but we don't get squat.

aquaboogie · 02-27-2013, 09:23 PM

Good luck staying healthy behind that OL!

RockyMountainSaint · 02-28-2013, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

True, sort of.

We can tender him a 2nd rounder at 2 million, but if no one bites he costs us 2 million.

Our best bet is a ROFR tender at about 1.5 million, which means we can just match any offer he gets. If its too steep, we let him walk, but we don't get squat.

Loomis would not do ROFR.
So we get squadoosh when he leaves. Which he will.
Zero sum.

FinSaint · 02-28-2013, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The problem is that he was an undrafted FA.

Zero compensation.

As far as I know they the Saints can decide to tender him at any level they want because he was an UDFA, so they could tender him high to force another team to match, but the danger there is that they'd have to honor that higher tender if no other team matched it.

I don't know if a (artificially) higher tender would have an affect on the compensatory pick discussion, but with the restructures Loomis has been working on; I think the Saints are going after some FAs, so in the end the Saints probably end up gaining more from the FA pool than they lose to other teams... once again.

02-27-2013, 08:20 PM	#1
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Cards to pursue Ivory? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint Saints wouldn't be sending him anywhere. He is an unrestricted FA. Actually he's a RFA....which means we would probably get some kind of compensation if he does sign an offer sheet from another team and we don't match it.

02-27-2013, 08:53 PM	#2
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Cards to pursue Ivory? Originally Posted by NuNu318 Actually he's a RFA....which means we would probably get some kind of compensation if he does sign an offer sheet from another team and we don't match it. The problem is that he was an undrafted FA. Zero compensation.

02-27-2013, 09:01 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Cards to pursue Ivory? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The problem is that he was an undrafted FA. Zero compensation. True, sort of. We can tender him a 2nd rounder at 2 million, but if no one bites he costs us 2 million. Our best bet is a ROFR tender at about 1.5 million, which means we can just match any offer he gets. If its too steep, we let him walk, but we don't get squat.

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02-28-2013, 01:00 AM	#5
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Cards to pursue Ivory? Originally Posted by Danno True, sort of. We can tender him a 2nd rounder at 2 million, but if no one bites he costs us 2 million. Our best bet is a ROFR tender at about 1.5 million, which means we can just match any offer he gets. If its too steep, we let him walk, but we don't get squat. Loomis would not do ROFR. So we get squadoosh when he leaves. Which he will. Zero sum.

02-28-2013, 05:31 AM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Cards to pursue Ivory? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The problem is that he was an undrafted FA. Zero compensation. As far as I know they the Saints can decide to tender him at any level they want because he was an UDFA, so they could tender him high to force another team to match, but the danger there is that they'd have to honor that higher tender if no other team matched it. I don't know if a (artificially) higher tender would have an affect on the compensatory pick discussion, but with the restructures Loomis has been working on; I think the Saints are going after some FAs, so in the end the Saints probably end up gaining more from the FA pool than they lose to other teams... once again.
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