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Unless Daniel becomes Brees' replacement in 2015
I'm just asking because if Daniel bolts before Brees is done in the NFL we need to start grooming Brees' replacement, a qb that will be a starter in three years like Rodgers was when he was drafted by packers. I mean I know Brees could have a injury at anytime(eventually it happens, Manning and Brady already experienced it) and I think if it happened Daniel would do well. But we need a qb who will be ready to win many games within two years of Brees stepping down. i know this is a long ways away but we need to start grooming his replacement. A qb that comes to mind is a guy like Connor Shaw from South Carolina who is a senior next year I believe or Aaron Murray in this upcoming draft. Daniel would be the best bet overall but I believe he could leave before he gets his chance. It would be best imo to trade Daniel for a serviceable backup qb like Clausen(Yes, I think has what it takes to succeed), Mallet, or, if he takes less money, Flynn. While, also still drafting a qb to groom as Brees replacement. I hope Daniel decides he will wait for Brees retirement and begin his starter career as a saint but he may not and we will need that guy in place. One thing that nags me is the haters talking about how we are on the decline and when Brees is done, we're done. I am tired of hearing this and we certainly cannot let Matt Ryan take over this division when Brees is done. I can only hope Payton stays forever or at least a few more years beyond Brees but prob will not.
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I think we pick somebody up late next year or 2015 to take over from Brees longterm.You dont want to waste these new rookie contract by having the player sit on the bench and then have to renew a deal at big numbers only a year or so after they start playing.
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After seeing last years rookie QB's I'm not worried about "grooming" anyone. College does a good job if we do a good job drafting.
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The other thing about Chase is that for the time being at least, he seems very happy to do these one-year, slightly-increasing contracts, every year, which is very helpful to the team in terms of capology and taking care of the other players. You sign a young exciting rookie QB now to take the place of Drew in 4 years, then you need a long contract for that, and each year has to get bigger, at a faster rate than Chase. And we know Chase will just re-negotiate each year based on what is happening with the cap and the team. Not many people here noticed, because they were too busy FREAKING OUT about Drew and hating on him for being "greedy," etc., but the Saints gave Chase a nice healthy raise the same year they gave Drew his big new contract, made him a "million dollar man" for the first time -- so to me that shows the Saints wanted to send Chase a message that they value him too, and see him as a part of the picture...but I think he knows it's always gonna be year to year for him, that's just a part of the life of a backup in this situation.
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SP seems to always be looking for a good qb of the scrap heap or in the backend/FA of the draft. he will come up with a gem sooner then later.
if the defense improves chase may see the field more |
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It no longer takes 2 to 3 years to develop a QB.
It takes about 1 traning camp. We're 5 years away from needing Brees' replacement. |
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At the same time, though, very few of these new qbs have yet to win a ring. The only qbs from any class after 04 that have won are Rodgers and Flacco and Flacco is lucky he plays for the ravens and there's only five legit teams in the AFC that will beat anybody else in the playoffs(exception is probably Denver against San Diego if they ever go back). The ravens know who they can beat and who they need to play smart against in the playoffs. They also got gifted second chances against teams who had played their hand earlier and Ray Lewis doesnt forget. This is a "I know what you did last time" playoff era we have. These other qbs will have to go through a lot to win. CK is lucky to play on a versatile team that is defensive and Wilson is lucky to play in one of the toughest stadiums for road teams. QBs like Cam, Tannehill, Locker will realize when/if they make the playoffs it won't be so easy considering their overall teams. RG 3 and Dalton already are witnessing this. |
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Ahh when the time comes we will see who San Diego has around. Let's go back to the well. LOL
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I read "Useless" instead of "Unless" at first...
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No I think Daniel will be great. Missouri is doing nothing since Daniel or Gabbert left. Gabbert picked up notes from Daniel and kept Mo together at least for a couple seasons but his 4-4 record in 09 has a lot to do with beating Oklahoma without Bradford and they were mailing it in after he got hurt except for against their in-state rival. I just think Daniel can adapt better and he's sat behind a great qb(even a ok qb is good enough as Brady watched Bledsoe).
I question many qbs starting right away. The NFL is waiting for Manning to retire where there will be one less elite qb for these new wave of starters to have serious chances at rings. Considering the teams Favre beat in 07, would Rodgers have been able to do that? That took more than skill. Compared to him winning in his third year as a starter after sitting on the bench. It still took Flacco five years. |
Only problem is I think Payton runs one of the most complicated offenses in the league. Brees's brain is what makes that machine run. I could never see someone like Colin Kaepernik running this O.
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Brees's accuracy is the real aspect that makes him stand apart with this offense.
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Talking about Brees replacement now is like talking about tarding in the 2011 $100 Million dollar sports car you JUST BOUGHT.
It's not the time nor am I worried. Seems other teams are doing well without Brees/Manning/Brady |
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At this point Daniels is the best replacement. He's been in the system for awhile and has been able to work with Brees. If it turns out its not him, I'd love to pick up Aaron Murray next year if possible. Very cerebral and Brees like IMO.
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We're 5 years away from needing Brees' replacement.
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Chase Daniel is a back up. He should never start for anybody, let alone replace Drew Brees. I rather take w chance with Drew grooming JaMarcus Russell. The Saints will draft a QB eventually...or free agency.
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We are 5 years or 1 play away from needing a replacement for Drew.
If Chase were that man (a starter in the NFL), my gut tells me someone would have scooped him by now. |
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I don't see how anyone can count Chase out.
Because there is that much NFL footage of him for any of you to make that determination... Besides some of these post proves its off season. We just spent $100 on one of the best QB's and peopel are already talking about his replacement... Some of you guys are as bad as ESPN |
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Dont get me wrong i like Chase Daniel but the guy is 26 years old right now... if we get at least 4 more years out of Drew do you really want the next QB in line to step in already being 30????/
I see the Saints doing just as the Packers did and maybe in a few years drafting a QB in the first round and letting him learn under Drew for a few seasons then when Drew is ready to ride off into the sunset we will have our next QB ready to step in at maybe 24-25 years old |
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Chase Daniel is no Steve Young
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Aaron Rodgers was 100% the exception to the rule.
I can't think of a single QB in todays NFL that sat for 4 years before taking over and becoming great. Rodgers sat because Brett Favre kept waffling on retirement. He was ready to go year 2. |
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Ha and also Steve Young is a apart of the very group of QB's stepping under center well into their career and going on to have illustrious careers.
So then unless Chase Daniel is also an exception to the rule we most likely will draft a QB towards the tail end of Drew's career.... which i dont believe he is |
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And Young started his career with the USFL at age 25, then went to a gawd-awful Tampa team for two seasons, before being forced to sit behind a HOF'er for a couple seasons when he was likely ready much sooner. Not a real good example. Again. we don't need to worry about Drew's replacement for another 4 or 5 years. |
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Steve Young had alot of Joe Montana developed weapons when he took over too.
Chase Daniel could have the same... I don't even know why this is a topic when its 4+ years away. Short term memory baby! 2013 Super Bowl 2014 Super Bowl 2015 Super Bowl 2016 who cares its too far away |
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Thank you Danno, as i said i dont see Chase Daniels as taking over the reigns and being the starter once Drew Brees is ready to hang it up
And short term memory is good so long as you still keep at least a slight eye on the future |
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Im not backing Daniels by throwing Young into the debate. Just proving its not impossible.
The Saints won a SB and no one saw that coming... |
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O yea i am not going to sit here and say there is no way in H+LL he can start, that would be discrediting him and I do not plan on doing that.
My point is seeing that i believe that Drew still has 4-5 possible more good years with us factored with Chase Daniels age right now i myself feel that it is unlikely that he is handed the keys to the team once Drew is ready to prepare for the Hall of Fame considering that Chase may also be in his 30's once that happens |
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Exactly how much NFL footage was there of RGIII to make him a starter? |
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His mother did. |
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You should look at the 49ers complete roster: 1994 San Francisco 49ers Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com Also look at the defense with 23 INTs. |
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Well Falcons fans didnt.... Saints fans did. |
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Late rd. Developmental project
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