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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Only issue I have is we have too many running backs... letys get something for them and beef up the defense. I like to keep 1. P.Thomas 2. D.Sproles 3. M.Ingram/C. Ivory either or...

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Old 03-06-2013, 07:37 AM   #1
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Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory

Only issue I have is we have too many running backs...
letys get something for them and beef up the defense.
I like to keep
1. P.Thomas
2. D.Sproles
3. M.Ingram/C. Ivory either or
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:43 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Jamessr View Post
Only issue I have is we have too many running backs...
letys get something for them and beef up the defense.
I like to keep
1. P.Thomas
2. D.Sproles
3. M.Ingram/C. Ivory either or
+1. Too bad we didn't have this stable of backs to use during that playoff game up in Seattle a few years back. All I can remember was Julious Jones being too light in the butt to carry the load and Bush getting concussed.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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+1. Too bad we didn't have this stable of backs to use during that playoff game up in Seattle a few years back. All I can remember was Julious Jones being too light in the butt to carry the load and Bush getting concussed.
I read somewheres the reason we carry so many rb's now is because of that Seattle game. funny huh
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I read somewheres the reason we carry so many rb's now is because of that Seattle game. funny huh
This is something I've noticed about Payton. Once he gets burned, he's very serious about never having the same bad thing happen to him twice. And then sometimes he gets kinda OCD, and almost winds up over-compensating for it.

Another example: he had trouble with kickers early on in his career here, guys were missing crucial kicks -- I forget exactly which ones, but Carny missed something , Billy Cundiff missed a big one in the NFC championship game, then Olindo Mare missed something horrible... The Saints had troubles with kickers even before Sean Payton got here -- River City Relay, anyone?

So Payton gets here and the kicking troubles continue -- I vaguely remember there were several games early on when Payton was here, where they would always line up for these crucial long field goals and miss, so it was like "oh no, here we go again"...and now Payton carries two and sometimes THREE kickers on the roster. Not to start a Hartley discussion, but just to show that this is what happens -- if something burns Payton badly, he goes out of his way to correct it.
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Level 1: 1,323,000 $ (ROFR, Right Of First Refusal))
Level 2: 1,323,000 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (Original Round Pick)
Level 3: 2,023,088 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (Second Round Pick)
Level 4: 2,878,628 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (First Round Pick)

second round cap hit? your getting to the point of having to pick cap vs production. at this point i have to pause and really debate the worth if he can not stay health. health is the key here. 2 million for what less than 100 plays, not carries, in a season? i am not solid on it

there are some late round and UDFA options

Spencer Ware*, RB, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 223

Cameron Marshall, RB, Arizona State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 223.

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 215

All more cap friendly and less injury history.

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And lets not forget about Cadet, he did show some flashes in the preseason when he was subbing with Ivory, and I think he could become a solid scat back and a true weapon in the screen game.
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And lets not forget about Cadet, he did show some flashes in the preseason when he was subbing with Ivory, and I think he could become a solid scat back and a true weapon in the screen game.
+1. And one more year of experience in his back pocket.
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And lets not forget about Cadet, he did show some flashes in the preseason when he was subbing with Ivory, and I think he could become a solid scat back and a true weapon in the screen game.
He showed potential early on in the season, but seemed to hit a wall and didn't improve much after that. I wasn't impressed with his return ability that much either.
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He showed potential early on in the season, but seemed to hit a wall and didn't improve much after that. I wasn't impressed with his return ability that much either.

I wonder how much of that was due to poor play calling by Carmichael?
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I'd still prefer to shift one or two of the backs and bring in a large short down/goal line back.
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