Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes

lee909 · 03-16-2013, 07:05 AM

Just make the players sign a waiver saying they understand the possible long term health rush and let them play some hard nosed football.Boxers and MMA fighter understand the risks as do Motorsport drivers,skiers etc.

Man up,play ball or find a new career

Seer1 · 03-16-2013, 11:10 AM

I wonder if a field in New Jersey is going to be maintained up to NFL standards when it's frozen solid next February?

UK_WhoDat · 03-16-2013, 05:44 PM

1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed.

Seer1 · 03-16-2013, 05:56 PM

1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed.

Okay, I dare someone to explain this to me. If the play is going to be reviewed anyway, who cares if someone throws a red hankie on the field? Why not just hand it back and say "Thanks! We've got his one covered."?

spkb25 · 03-16-2013, 06:44 PM

and goodouche ruins league

SloMotion · 03-17-2013, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed.

Okay, I dare someone to explain this to me. If the play is going to be reviewed anyway, who cares if someone throws a red hankie on the field? Why not just hand it back and say "Thanks! We've got his one covered."?

I think it has something to do with the fact that Jim Schwartz (DET) has done it more then once and indicated he's done it just to show his displeasure with the officiating crew, hence it being referred to as the "Jim Schwartz" rule ... so maybe it's a 'respect towards the officials' thing. I guess the good ol' days of just throwing the clipboard & spouting obscenities are gone for good, <sigh>.

Seer1 · 03-17-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I think it has something to do with the fact that Jim Schwartz (DET) has done it more then once and indicated he's done it just to show his displeasure with the officiating crew, hence it being referred to as the "Jim Schwartz" rule ... so maybe it's a 'respect towards the officials' thing. I guess the good ol' days of just throwing the clipboard & spouting obscenities are gone for good, <sigh>.

No offense Slo, but I just don't get the rule in the first place. The change in it makes a little bit of sense, but why is it there to begin with? Just another place to give the tiny dicked guys the chance to boss other guys around just because they can maybe?

SloMotion · 03-17-2013, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

No offense Slo, but I just don't get the rule in the first place. The change in it makes a little bit of sense, but why is it there to begin with? Just another place to give the tiny dicked guys the chance to boss other guys around just because they can maybe?

Yeah, none taken

... it was a confusing rule in the first place & you would think it's a no-brainer not to throw the challenge when they already had the 'all scoring plays would be reviewed' rule in effect, but I think it specifically cost the Lions a game the last time Schwartz threw the flag on a scoring play, making it un-reviewable under the current rule, so now they modify it to allow the play to be reviewed, but still hand out some kind of penalty to the coach who insists on throwing the flag, without costing the team a score ... at least, that's how I'm interpreting it. Ford is a big sponsor of the NFL, so I'm sure DET was in the front office pushing for some kind of ruling on this.

I agree with your original point of just handing the flag back or maybe call the coach a 'bonehead' and throw the flag back, but I guess it's not that simple anymore in today's over-regulated NFL.

Seer1 · 03-17-2013, 11:53 AM

Yeah, the juices get flowing and the refs make a really bad call, as they did on that play. How can you stop yourself? I'd have thrown it. I just wonder what they were thinking that they had to put that rule in the books to begin with.

lee909 · 03-17-2013, 12:26 PM

Matt Forte Matt Forte ‏@MattForte22
The proposed rule change for running backs might be the most absurd suggestion of a rule change I've ever heard of.
In order to lower ur shoulder u obviously have to lower ur head. It's a way of protecting ur self from a tackler and a way to break tackles
U can't change the instinctive nature of running the football.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Just make the players sign a waiver saying they understand the possible long term health rush and let them play some hard nosed football.Boxers and MMA fighter understand the risks as do Motorsport drivers,skiers etc. Man up,play ball or find a new career hagan714 likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes I wonder if a field in New Jersey is going to be maintained up to NFL standards when it's frozen solid next February?

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes 1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed. SloMotion likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes 1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed. Okay, I dare someone to explain this to me. If the play is going to be reviewed anyway, who cares if someone throws a red hankie on the field? Why not just hand it back and say "Thanks! We've got his one covered."?
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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes Originally Posted by Seer1 1. A play that would have been automatically reviewed by instant replay will still be reviewed even if a coach throws his challenge flag. Any coach who challenges a play that he’s not permitted to challenge would be charged a timeout, and wouldn’t get his timeout back even if he wins the challenge, or would lose 15 yards if his team is out of timeouts. But the play itself will still be reviewed. Okay, I dare someone to explain this to me. If the play is going to be reviewed anyway, who cares if someone throws a red hankie on the field? Why not just hand it back and say "Thanks! We've got his one covered."? I think it has something to do with the fact that Jim Schwartz (DET) has done it more then once and indicated he's done it just to show his displeasure with the officiating crew, hence it being referred to as the "Jim Schwartz" rule ... so maybe it's a 'respect towards the officials' thing. I guess the good ol' days of just throwing the clipboard & spouting obscenities are gone for good, <sigh>.

03-17-2013, 10:37 AM	#17
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes Originally Posted by SloMotion I think it has something to do with the fact that Jim Schwartz (DET) has done it more then once and indicated he's done it just to show his displeasure with the officiating crew, hence it being referred to as the "Jim Schwartz" rule ... so maybe it's a 'respect towards the officials' thing. I guess the good ol' days of just throwing the clipboard & spouting obscenities are gone for good, <sigh>. No offense Slo, but I just don't get the rule in the first place. The change in it makes a little bit of sense, but why is it there to begin with? Just another place to give the tiny dicked guys the chance to boss other guys around just because they can maybe?

03-17-2013, 11:09 AM	#18
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes Originally Posted by Seer1 No offense Slo, but I just don't get the rule in the first place. The change in it makes a little bit of sense, but why is it there to begin with? Just another place to give the tiny dicked guys the chance to boss other guys around just because they can maybe? Yeah, none taken ... it was a confusing rule in the first place & you would think it's a no-brainer not to throw the challenge when they already had the 'all scoring plays would be reviewed' rule in effect, but I think it specifically cost the Lions a game the last time Schwartz threw the flag on a scoring play, making it un-reviewable under the current rule, so now they modify it to allow the play to be reviewed, but still hand out some kind of penalty to the coach who insists on throwing the flag, without costing the team a score ... at least, that's how I'm interpreting it. Ford is a big sponsor of the NFL, so I'm sure DET was in the front office pushing for some kind of ruling on this. I agree with your original point of just handing the flag back or maybe call the coach a 'bonehead' and throw the flag back, but I guess it's not that simple anymore in today's over-regulated NFL.

03-17-2013, 11:53 AM	#19
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes Yeah, the juices get flowing and the refs make a really bad call, as they did on that play. How can you stop yourself? I'd have thrown it. I just wonder what they were thinking that they had to put that rule in the books to begin with.

03-17-2013, 12:26 PM	#20
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Competition Committee proposes 6 rule changes, 3 bylaw changes Matt Forte Matt Forte ‏@MattForte22 The proposed rule change for running backs might be the most absurd suggestion of a rule change I've ever heard of. In order to lower ur shoulder u obviously have to lower ur head. It's a way of protecting ur self from a tackler and a way to break tackles U can't change the instinctive nature of running the football.

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