Glad Bushrod is gone!

Rugby Saint II · 03-15-2013, 01:18 PM

Next man up!

Do Your Job!

Jamessr · 03-15-2013, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Next man up!

Do Your Job!

I don't believe in that...
There is a reason you're the starter in the 1st place

TheOak · 03-15-2013, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I don't believe in that...
There is a reason you're the starter in the 1st place

And in the NFL that reason is because the last man stopped doing his job for some reason or another.

Papa Voodoo · 03-15-2013, 02:40 PM

We use our Tackles like guards and vice versa. Bushrod was very good pulling in the run game. Strief is terrible. Of course, we pass way more than run so it wasn't a huge loss. We have tackles on the roster that can fill Bushrod's role. Maybe we'll get lucky and Jake Long will decide he wants to play with Drew too

FinSaint · 03-15-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

We use our Tackles like guards and vice versa. Bushrod was very good pulling in the run game. Strief is terrible. Of course, we pass way more than run so it wasn't a huge loss. We have tackles on the roster that can fill Bushrod's role. Maybe we'll get lucky and Jake Long will decide he wants to play with Drew too

The impression that I've gotten - however misguided it might be - about Long is that he'll go after the money all day long rather than considering where he'd potentially have the most success.

Leighton B · 03-15-2013, 08:24 PM

I LIKE BUSHROD AT RT TOO! but Gubbs replaced Nicks better than Nicks replaced the srub he replaced in TB! Seriously Nicks only played in like 12 games all while getting almost 10mil more than Grubbs! Mickey l
and Sean are one of the best at bottom lining guys to the EXACT BARE SIDE OF THE MARKET! Thank-you Drew Brees!

saintsfan403 · 03-15-2013, 09:34 PM

I wouldn't say I'm happy, but he got way overpaid. **** it though, the bears are never gonna be a contender with cutler, so we'll find someone who wants a ring more than a payday. IN PAYTON I TRUST!

Utah_Saint · 03-15-2013, 10:27 PM

I'm glad the Saints didn't over pay. I've read a few sites now that list the Baker signing in Atlanta as one of the worst signings this season because they just flat out paid too much money.

|Mitch| · 03-16-2013, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I'm glad the Saints didn't over pay. I've read a few sites now that list the Baker signing in Atlanta as one of the worst signings this season because they just flat out paid too much money.

Quoted from WalterFootball, contract is not that bad...

Falcons sign OT Sam Baker (6 years, $41.5M; $18.25M guaranteed): B+ Grade
This looks like a terrible contract at first glance. Giving a guy with back problems $41.5 million over six years would be a huge disaster - even if he happens to be the franchise quarterback's blind-side protector. But the fact is that the overall numbers are misleading. Stripped down, Baker's contract is for three years and $13.5 million. The rest is performance-based.

Given that knowledge, this is a very good re-signing for the Falcons. It's still a lot of guaranteed money, but retaining Baker was crucial for Matt Ryan's protection. Baker has had a shaky career in Atlanta up until the 2012 season, but he performed extremely well last year. He could always regress if his back flares up, but even if he does, Atlanta won't be stuck with a bad contract on its hands.

Utah_Saint · 03-16-2013, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Quoted from WalterFootball, contract is not that bad...

The first reports that came out claimed a 6 year $41 million dollar contract with $18 million guaranteed. THAT would have been terrible. Now that we know that isn't the case, the 3 year contract isn't as bad for the Falcons. Nevertheless...

PFF had this to say.

Sam Baker is like most starting LTs in the league, a former first-round tackle, but only one year has he really been able to look anything other than a major liability; 2012, his contract year. Even last year, the best we have seen from Baker, he was only our 27th-ranked OT, surrendering six sacks and allowing Matt Ryan to hit the deck another eight times on the year. The Falcons took this improvement as a signal to throw $20 million of guaranteed money at him rather than risk moving on without him and potentially disrupting Matt Ryan’s pass protection. Senseless.

03-15-2013, 01:18 PM	#1
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03-15-2013, 02:32 PM	#2
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Next man up! Do Your Job! I don't believe in that... There is a reason you're the starter in the 1st place

03-15-2013, 02:33 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! Originally Posted by Jamessr I don't believe in that... There is a reason you're the starter in the 1st place And in the NFL that reason is because the last man stopped doing his job for some reason or another. Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-15-2013, 02:40 PM	#4
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! We use our Tackles like guards and vice versa. Bushrod was very good pulling in the run game. Strief is terrible. Of course, we pass way more than run so it wasn't a huge loss. We have tackles on the roster that can fill Bushrod's role. Maybe we'll get lucky and Jake Long will decide he wants to play with Drew too

03-15-2013, 06:13 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo We use our Tackles like guards and vice versa. Bushrod was very good pulling in the run game. Strief is terrible. Of course, we pass way more than run so it wasn't a huge loss. We have tackles on the roster that can fill Bushrod's role. Maybe we'll get lucky and Jake Long will decide he wants to play with Drew too The impression that I've gotten - however misguided it might be - about Long is that he'll go after the money all day long rather than considering where he'd potentially have the most success.

03-15-2013, 08:24 PM	#6
Leighton B 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 160	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! I LIKE BUSHROD AT RT TOO! but Gubbs replaced Nicks better than Nicks replaced the srub he replaced in TB! Seriously Nicks only played in like 12 games all while getting almost 10mil more than Grubbs! Mickey l and Sean are one of the best at bottom lining guys to the EXACT BARE SIDE OF THE MARKET! Thank-you Drew Brees!
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03-15-2013, 09:34 PM	#7
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! I wouldn't say I'm happy, but he got way overpaid. **** it though, the bears are never gonna be a contender with cutler, so we'll find someone who wants a ring more than a payday. IN PAYTON I TRUST!

03-15-2013, 10:27 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! I'm glad the Saints didn't over pay. I've read a few sites now that list the Baker signing in Atlanta as one of the worst signings this season because they just flat out paid too much money.

03-16-2013, 09:58 AM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I'm glad the Saints didn't over pay. I've read a few sites now that list the Baker signing in Atlanta as one of the worst signings this season because they just flat out paid too much money. Quoted from WalterFootball, contract is not that bad... Falcons sign OT Sam Baker (6 years, $41.5M; $18.25M guaranteed): B+ Grade This looks like a terrible contract at first glance. Giving a guy with back problems $41.5 million over six years would be a huge disaster - even if he happens to be the franchise quarterback's blind-side protector. But the fact is that the overall numbers are misleading. Stripped down, Baker's contract is for three years and $13.5 million. The rest is performance-based. Given that knowledge, this is a very good re-signing for the Falcons. It's still a lot of guaranteed money, but retaining Baker was crucial for Matt Ryan's protection. Baker has had a shaky career in Atlanta up until the 2012 season, but he performed extremely well last year. He could always regress if his back flares up, but even if he does, Atlanta won't be stuck with a bad contract on its hands.

03-16-2013, 11:56 PM	#10
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Glad Bushrod is gone! Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Quoted from WalterFootball, contract is not that bad... The first reports that came out claimed a 6 year $41 million dollar contract with $18 million guaranteed. THAT would have been terrible. Now that we know that isn't the case, the 3 year contract isn't as bad for the Falcons. Nevertheless... PFF had this to say. Sam Baker is like most starting LTs in the league, a former first-round tackle, but only one year has he really been able to look anything other than a major liability; 2012, his contract year. Even last year, the best we have seen from Baker, he was only our 27th-ranked OT, surrendering six sacks and allowing Matt Ryan to hit the deck another eight times on the year. The Falcons took this improvement as a signal to throw $20 million of guaranteed money at him rather than risk moving on without him and potentially disrupting Matt Ryan’s pass protection. Senseless.

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