NinthWardJay

Anybody that says that they hope they don't get a player like Jarvis Jones must not have seen him play. That's really all I can say about that.

lsutigerfan

I have no questions about his abilities, the dudes a stud. My only question is can he play 10 years with his injuries or will he only be able to play 3 or 4 years. If the Saints think he can play 10 years Id jump all over him.

I don't get too excited or disappointed when it comes to pro days.

Mr.Riaton

Any saints fan who says they hope they don't get a player like j. Jones has never seen our defense play!

NinthWardJay

Terrell Sugs ran a similar 40 time to what Jones ran.... Would people have "hoped" that we didn't draft Suggs if be had fallen to us?

papz

So he's not a workout warrior. It's not a big deal to me. I'm more concerned about production and he has a great track record.

If we shy away from the guy because of his health condition, fine... completely understandable. But if it's because he runs a poor 40, I think it would be a mistake. He's exactly what he's advertised as... a pass rusher. He's not a guy where you would drop him back in coverage and track TE's.

Another example of a guy who did abysmal in his workouts... Vontaze Burfict. He was an absolute stud for the Bengals last year.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.

saintsfan1976

If he can't rush AND cover, then he's not a top 15 pick IMO.

Mingo , Jordan and Ansah seem to have him beat there.

papz

That depends if you think he's going to be a consistent double digit sack guy throughout his career. Because if he is, he'd definitely be worth a top 15 selection.

Look at Von Miller, Elvis Dumervil, Aldon Smith, among others. The reason why they're on the football field is to get to the quarterback. Athletically speaking, Miller and Smith are far superior to Jones. But I'm not comparing their athleticism... but their main purpose on the field. It's not to cover.

With that said, maybe we're evaluating him to see if it makes sense to take him lower in the first round... which quite a few people are advocating for us to do. Got to explore all our options.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.

rezburna

none of those players covered anybody in college. They were all defensive ends. Jones converted from safety to LB.

papz

I think you have some of that mixed up. Ogletree was a former safety that moved to LB not Jones. Jordan covered receivers and TE's routinely at Oregon.

jcp026

I don't think he's a one trick pony. This is from his draft profile on nfl.com:


ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Versatile linebacker with a chance to play inside or outside. Possesses a very good first step to pressure tackles’ upfield shoulder. Also has closing speed to finish the deal and short-area quickness to keep contain outside and crash down on inside runs. Strong tackler with excellent length and upper-body strength to wrap up ball carriers. Gets under the pads of tackles, keeps his feet churning, to maintain leverage whether holding the edge or bulling his man backwards. Brings heavy hands, can rip off to get around the edge or cut inside to stop quarterbacks from stepping up in the pocket. Works through double-teams if the quarterback hangs onto the ball in the pocket. Holds his ground against pulling guards and fullbacks. Capable of locking up tight ends off the edge in coverage, also sorts out multiple routes in his direction to make a play on the correct one. Gets his hands up to affect passing lanes.

WEAKNESSES One-year starter. Inconsistent using his hands to disengage from better blocks and to beat cut blocks from running backs in pass pro. Lacks an ideal frame to get much bigger and doesn’t have the growth potential to the bulk teams want at the position. Will need to prove he can stay with NFL ball carriers in space when dropping into the flat. Not particularly smooth in deep drops. Doesn’t have elite bend around the corner, and could use a spin or other counter move to keep tackles guessing. Missed the last five games of the 2009 with a neck injury, part of his senior year in high school with a broken thumb. There is some concern about his long-term durability due to his spinal stenosis condition, the same ailment that has caused some players to call it quits, including Marcus McNeill, Chris Samuels and Michael Irvin.